Bodine camp hounds Haines over candidate’s mistake

Phil also forgot that he didn't pay property taxes when he ran for re-election in 2004. Martha would be proud.

If you are going to continue to open cans of worms, expect it back - why didn't Fifis tell the truth to the papers when he said he didn't become owner of Ponzio's until 2000 when his bio on the BCDO site clearly stated he was part of ownership in 1998 when a lien was placed on the restaurant for failing to pay $17k in taxes? I see after I found the glaring foot in mouth problem, the site changed it to reflect what he said in the paper. What is he hiding?

I cannot imagine who you are? To get so angry, to get so emotional, its really hard to comprehend gopgal. I have seen similar postings on nj.com, on the Butlington County forum. Why do you feel the need to personally attack other posters, who are simply voicing their opinion, and viciously assault the democratic candidates. I hope someone can find out who you are and sue you for defamation. Given the television ads and massive grass roots efforts, the democrats are rising in the polls. ALL of the democrats, including Bodine. THis is obviously scaring the GOP as they felt sue Haines would wipe the floor with him. Now the terrorism bit has backfired and Riley has come out looking better. You guys keep messing this one up, and Haines, Addeigo and Rudder will be left at home in November. Now try some yoga tapes or something gopgal and get your anger under control!

How interesting that comments countering gopgal's angry posts are actually just as angry and personal, only more voluminous in their flowery but poisonous prose. Martin I am sure thinks himself clever inferring she is some gutter trash drunk. I see the politics of personal distruction are fine as long as name calling or character assassination is neatly folded into the middle of diatribe of party talking points. I personally find gopgal's bluntness refreshing in comparison to the PBS monologues inscribed here day after day.

Or perhaps just an outright lie by Martin. I suggest you be more careful if you are going to traffic in rumors. I hope Martin raises these same questions when Ed Kotch is up for re-election. He not only continues to practice law, but more often than not does so in lieu of showing up for work as County Solicitor. However, I am sure that Martin will be as flexible on this issue as he is with his stance on women's rights.

Haines had been public in the first place about his private practice real estate transactions. Clerkin is right in demanding that Haines reveal his client lists and the names of private developers in particular that have "benefited" from his council.

For the record, I don't think Haines is as blatantly corrupt as Martha Bark or Bob Stears, but he quietly has been taking in clients under the aegis of serving as county clerk and a private sector lawyer, and he approved, as freeholder, the insider deals with The Strategy Group that left taxpayers footing millions in back bills for non-jobs.

Either way, in terms of political victory and losses, this is a loss for Haines because he is not only on the defense, but he keeps having to defend himself.

Speaking of country clubs, I'm concerned about Addiego's role in taking funds for open space preservation and using them instead for the contruction of Indian Springs Country Club. Chris Fifis rightly critiques Addiego's shopping spree: “Addiego looted money from one fund to pay for her runaway spending."

I do agree that Bodine should be ashamed of himself for being a member of that club, however, I do find it funny that Addiego criticized him for it, while at the same time asking Bodine to let her husband go play with him sometime. She is a walking disaster! The only people who have any sense on this ticket are Riley and Rudder. That's who I'll be casting my vote for in November.

Though Paulsen may be giving you orders to mention "Camden County" as much as possible, and your weak attack on Fifis is transparent and pithy, the oc continues to play make believe about corruption in his own county, refusing to address issues concerning Lenape-gate, Indian Springs Country Club, the Bridge Commission, Bark, and other moments where taxpayers are bilked at the expense of the BurlCo GOP machine.

What a second: that sounds a lot like the campaign platform of Haines-Addiego-Rudder, too.

Although the connection of the 8th Democrats to the Camden county machine is a known part of the Republican attack, CC was not mentioned at all until your last post, Martin.

pithy, adj: brief, forceful, and meaningful in expression; full of vigor, substance, or meaning; terse; forcible

So I guess that means the oc's argument was a weak, forceful attack

I will continue to worry about MY county. Why don't you slither back to your county and deal with the abundance of corruption there? And you can kiss my rear if you think I am anyone's minion. You have cornered the market as Perr's...uuuhhh...lackey. And the Fifis failure to pay taxes and have a lien placed on his restaurant will be an issue. It will show that he is deliberately hiding something in order to fool the public. We aren't stupid. The Haines clerk/lawyer issue is not gaining traction. But Clerkin needs to justify getting paid somehow - other than illegally working for the campaign inside a legislative office.

Sharper: Forgive me if I don't take advice on truth from an pseudonymous poster who refuses even to acknowledge the widespread corruption in her/his own county. You have yet to make a single point besides critiquing my language and attacking me personally, so perhaps we can get to some exchange if you actually stick your neck out and defend Paulsen-Haines-Bark-Addiego-Rudder(father and son)-Stears. On the one point you did make, besides making veiled threats, then calling me a liar (without telling what I lied about): The issue with Koch would be different on some level than with Haines if Koch had been doing this for 7 years, as Clerk/Freeholder/Paulsen nepotist Haines has been doing with his private practice and work for the county.

the oc: Again, let the legal chips fall where they may. I'm glad that you are against having paid state staffers do political work; that means you will also criticize Diane Allen for using paid staffers to take notes on Rich Dennison. And my point above -- you often look for the polemical than any type of commonality -- is that a clerk-private attorney issue with Haines, as well as Haines' attacks on Bodine, are probably not gaining much traction in terms of changing voter's minds, though I would submit that when Haines (or any other candidate) is on the defensive, it isn't a good thing; it is probably us political junkies who pay attention to such accusations and political barbs, though the Haines clerkship issue was on the front page of the Courier Post yesterday.

I haven't made any threats, veiled or direct. Feel free to drive that falsehood home a third time, however. Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that holding a second job in the manner that Haines and Koch have only becomes an ethical issue when it has gone on for a specific amount of time? Admittedly, Haines has been in office much longer than Koch, but it seems you are arbitrarily assigning an amount of time after which this sort of behaviour becomes wrong. Regarding your comment on Allen's use of "paid" staffers, I believe its been addressed. The girl matching Dennison's description was an unpaid intern. This coupled with the fact that he was holding a press conference in front of her legislative office makes his complaint all the more ridiculous. What are her staffers supposed to do? Be held hostage inside while he grandstands about President Bush?

Told you your source was crap, Martin.

I also happen to know Dawn Lacy and I can assure you she is not mean, vindictive or full of hatred.

She is probably one of the hardest working members of the GOP, always willing to volunteer her time for a variety of causes.

It would be nice to see both Democrats and certain members of the GOP treat her with the respect she deserves.

I agree 100%, the select few GOP we are referring to were never elected by anyone and have just come in and tried to take over in a weak power grab. Their end is near, sometime after November 6, when the real people in the GOP step up and send them packing.

And it is worse to see the select GOP attack Lacy because you don't expect that from your own party. The crap the Dem's throw at her is expected because they don't know her.

I certainly wasn't intentionally trying to demean Dawn Lacy -- again, a source out of the blue emailed me about gopgal08 -- by comparing her to gopgal08, who routinely calls those who disagree with her "idiots," "stupid," or, as with me, a member of the "Hitler Youth Rally."

You shadow posters that are inside the BurlCo GOP seem to know who gopgal08 is, and I think we can confirm that she is associated with the Allen campaign in one way or another; this, of course, demeans the Allen campaign if this is the case.

This person has no affiliation with Allen, because Diane Allen, unlike this crazy person strongly disagrees with the 8th district republicans trashing Ms. Riley for her husband's representation of Mr. Duka. Diane Allen, unlike Addiego and Haines (who are LAWYERS) understands the meaning of the Constitution and would not dare chastise a member of the bar for defending this country and its most basic concepts.

gopgal is a person who does not have a conscience and will say and do whatever to get Addiego elected. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Addeigo herself, although I too have heard rumors that it is Ms. Lacey. I do not know Ms. Lacey personally, so I cannot comment on her ethics. But whoever this person is, she is quite angry. And according to the recent polls, will be having a heart attack in November!

All you dems in an uproar! lololol

By the way, you spin it all you want about Riley and her defense of Duka, point is until people started to give her heat about making money off an illegal terrorist did she capitulate and "stop" working with hubby until after the election.

But "constitution4all" since you know all the basic concepts of the constitution, tell me WHERE exactly does it say protection for illegals??? Do not remember seeing that in the Constitution. And please spare me the bleeding heart of loving this country, if Riley loved this country she would come clean with a homeland security plan or anti terrorist plan, but she cannot because it goes against the defense of Duka!

Go ahead, guess who I am; I love watching the conspiracy theories fly!

More Cowbell Please !!

The people running HQ now are just plain scum of the earth. They run dirty campaigns, even when they don't have to, and they play dirty within their own camp as well. Gopgal, the story about Riley?... enough already! The wise men at HQ have been hanging on to that story for months, beating the hell out of it because they think, in their infinite wisdom, that it reasonates with voters. It doesn't. And all it mananged to do is give Riley name recognition beyond Mount Laurel that she never had before these political geniuses began their brilliant attack. She probably quit her position because the polls came out and she realized that, because of all the name recognition she recieved courtesy of Paulsen's new crew, the seat was actually within reach! Good job, Bill Layton, you are the best freakin' campaign manager I have EVER seen in action. Obviously, being Paulsen's neighbor was your ONLY qualification for the position.

It is true: Lacy is too nice for the politics one finds at Republican HQ today. But I am telling you, if the not-so-nice people who are running things and running roughshod over Lacy today remain in their positions much longer,  the Republicans in Burlington County are finished for the indefinite future. Which is why Lacy should hold onto the Chair position and clean house after the election. A squeaky clean idealist would be a refreshing change and would energize the party in a much needed way. So you see, High Taxes, her "niceness" is not a political liability, it is an invaluable asset. The party needs a leader who doesn't know who Stears is, did not make millions from bond work, had nothing to do with Lenape-gate, never "found" Bark a job, and didn't have a Monica Lewinski-ish affair with a charge.

One more time Martin - if you don't want to be called names, don't do it yourself. I think many of the posters here - Sharper, pablo, Gopgal and more have gotten it 100% correct in that you make wild accusations and have no facts to back them up. I do not condone having a paid legislative staffer doing campaign work on the public dime. I do not have a problem with them doing it on their own time (clearly documented for legal purposes) and without force. Moreover, I do not have a problem with unpaid staffers crossing the line - the girl taking notes was an intern, not a staffer paid for with taxpayer funds. What I do have a problem with is paid campaign staffers dabbling in legislative work or conducting any campaign business on the property of a legislative office - a clear violation of ethics rules. And who cares who GOPgal is? Who knows I may know her outside this forum and not know that she is GOPgal. It really doesn't matter. But you have accused several people - including me - of being paid consultants or staffers of GOP offices, a local party, or campaign adviser. In all honesty, it is none of your business what I, or GOPgal, or anyone else for that matter, does for a living. Your personal attacks should cease on everyone if you want everyone to stop attacking you.  Sorry for the rambling post.  Was a long weekend.

You just cannot help yourself can you Martin? Once again you accuse gopgal again for working for Allen, ie "but those who speak for her, such as gopgal08, are hardly honorable in my estimation because of their gutter politics" Again, how do you know who this person is and what they do for a living? You do not and you wild guesses once again only make you like like the jerk you are. I can turn the tables and say, since you are in bed with the Dems you surely must be in bed with Dennison because you keep extolling his virtues over Diane. That sounds equally as riduculous doesent it? It is very clear to me and I am sure many others who read this site that you just like to agitate; when you have your back against the wall, you throw out wild accusations because you cannot debate with facts. You still have not provided your justification for when Bodine became a Dem that all of his past dirty deeds according to you have all gone away? Sorry, but Dennison, Bodine, Riley and Fifis are NOT good democrats or IMHO good people and do not deserve our support.

The 8th Dem signs were special ordered to be the color of the "old school gop camapigns". This request was made by Franny Boy to trick the Seniors. He wants them to think of him with the likes of Bill Haines and Larry Chad then what does old Marty Boy got to say about that?

Fran is such a Country Club Republican its not funny. One mans trash is another mans treasure i guess.

One needn't look any further than the press releases to the right to see the tactics of a truly great campaign. Surely these "highly anticipated" top ten lists (as they are toted by none other than the people who wrote them) are a sign of the maturity of this organization. Notice at the bottom of each that it does not have an individual contact, due to the fact that they are embarassingly unfunny. By comparison, Martin seems like an elder statesmen. After all, he is willing to attach his name to every bit of garbage he puts in to print.

Where do I begin? Do I start off like a 5th grader and retort by saying that you began the whole nonsense of calling people names when you claimed I was obese, balding and unemployed? I merely stated the fact that your profile claimed you were an "educator" which to me, and any other rational human being, indicates that you are a teacher. I then went on to quote Woody Allen by stating that those "who can't do, teach." If that is a personal jab at you, get some thicker skin. I never claimed you were a homosexual. I merely questioned how you garnered some of your information and whether it was from pillow talk with a county party boss (and not Glenn Paulsen so I think everyone can figure it out). I never stated that you were having sexual relations with any man - or woman for that matter. Additionally, because of your fascination with my physical attributes, I became alarmed thinking you may have some type of crush on me. I have never in all my years of politics experienced as much intrigue over what I look like than I have with you. Kind of flattered but to quote Damon Wayans- "homie don't play that." Could be worse - I could have quoted something from that awful one hit wonder band, Timbuk 3. The fact of the matter is, I could care less about your sexual orientation. Or your profession - although if you are still a student, kudos to you, but get a job and start paying taxes like the rest of us. Once you do, I am sure even you will want to keep a little more money in your pocket rather than giving it to the government and have them throw it either non-existent problems or programs that don't work. As for my facts, at least I do not make up mine. I have never given Martha Bark "a free pass." But I will ask - what has she been convicted of? The answer is nothing. Over two years of investigations have brought a grand total of ZERO charges. As for Tom DeLay, I am no fan - I have said that numerous times. However, he has not been convicted of a thing - not even jaywalking. And again, we are over two years and counting. Charges have been dropped or thrown out due to insufficient evidence or the fact that the prosecutor attempted to retroactively apply the law to something that was legal at the time DeLay was raising money. But nooooo - there was no political motive involved. Ronnie Earle would never do that, right? Wrong. He has a history of going after political rivals - and failing miserably. And you are damn straight I am going to defend the War on Terrorism. I have lost someone in my family in this conflict and I will be damned if I am going to allow his life to be lost for nothing like you and the other left winged liberals would want us to do. Now once again you will probably tell me that you don't care that I lost a family member in Iraq - as you have done in the past. And you will probably once again tell me that I should not mix in my personal life into this forum to back up my argument - as you have done in the past. So please forgive me for not giving a rat's butt if you do or don't have an "issue" with me personally. I could care less. But I do care about hypocrisy and blatant falsehoods. When I see them, I will correct them whether you like it or not. PS - As for candidates or campaign aides on this board, can you name one for sure? I doubt it. And as for your talking points, you mimic the press releases from the BCDO and blue jersey. So you are either not being forthright with us, or you are a parrot. Want a cracker?

Aside from the ethics complaint and lawyer's fees which are self explanatory, please substantiate these claims with hard evidence. Refrain from using Democratic press releases in doing so. If you are able to do this you will turn the Burlington County political scene upside down with the huge story that you broke all by yourself. Then, get Norcross to be your reference on the resume you submit to the Philadelphia Inquirer as their new political reporter. You'll be like Woodward and Bernstein but just one person! You can submit an essay reconciling your progressive beliefs with the fact that you support a man who belongs to one of the last openly discriminatory clubs in America as a writing sample.