August 7, 2007 - 5:35pm

Dennison takes a page from Sheldon Whitehouse's playbook

In district seven, where registered Democrats outnumber Republicans by almost two to one, Democratic state Senate candidate Rich Dennison keeps coming back to a a single theme when attacking incumbent Diane Allen: she’s a Republican.

Dennison even kicked off his campaign by trying to get Allen to sign a pledge declaring her independence from Bush, and last week made a tempting offer to reporters at a press conference, saying he’d give a million dollars to anyone who could find the word “Republican” on an Allen campaign flyer that he help up.

Dennison’s strategy is vaguely reminiscent of a recent U.S. Senate race in another densely populated blue state: Rhode Island, where in 2006 Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse beat independent-minded incumbent Republican Sen. Lincoln Chaffee in an election widely viewed as a referendum on President Bush and the Republican Party. Despite breaking from his party on many issues, the reason most often cited for Chafee’s loss was the “R” next to his name.

Like Chaffee, Allen is a moderate Republican. She’s pro-choice, pro-civil union and pro-stem cell research, but describes herself as fiscally conservative. She was also a vocal critic of the President’s plan to privatize social security. Indeed, it would be tough to be a conservative firebrand in a district where Kerry beat Bush by 13,000 votes in 2004 and Bob Menendez beat Tom Kean, Jr. for Senate by a similar margin last year.

The comparison, of course, is far from perfect. Chafee lost a statewide race in a political climate that was toxic for all Republicans. It’s much easier to tie a senator to an unpopular president’s policies in a federal race, where the candidate’s stance on foreign policy and national issues has a much more direct impact on policy.

Whether the same principle can apply to a local election in an off year is another question. Granted, Bush’s approval rating is incredibly low in New Jersey, and few politicians on any level of government are queuing for a photo op with him. But in a district where the voters are likely to be swayed by local issues like property taxes and asset monetization, where Diane Allen seems to be popular, and when none of New Jersey’s Congressman or Senators are on the ballot, Dennison runs the risk of overusing a line of attack that would be better suited for a statewide candidate.

“I think it’s a stretch to tie a legislative candidate to the national issues, unless that person has been active in taking a position, one way or the other, that is very strong,” said Ingrid Reed, director of the New Jersey Project at the Eagleton Institute of Politics. “It may work, but it also requires people to know who the alternative is, because she’s pretty well-known.”

While the local status of the election will certainly temper the anti-Bush backlash, Chafee’s credentials were more anti-Bush than Allen’s. Not only did he vote against authorizing the Iraq war – something that the majority of Senate Democrats at the time can’t even claim – but he did not back the President for re-election in 2004. While Allen has a moderate record as well, she does have the liability of having been a vocal Bush supporter during both of his elections, and having been a delegate to the two most recent Republican National Conventions.

At a press conference last week, Dennison did seek to demonstrate how he would provide an alternative to Allen, noting that she voted against the state’s needle exchange program.

Yesterday, Dennison said he still believed that voters cared about Allen’s ties to Bush. Michael Clarke, his campaign manager, pointed to a March, 2005, National Public Radio interview of Allen where she said she would be offended if someone called her a RINO (Republican in name only) and said, “I actually happen to think this President is doing a pretty good job.” The idea, he said, was that Allen espouses more traditional Republican views outside her district, while claiming to be a maverick at home.

This support for the President will get Allen in trouble with the district’s voters, Dennison said.

“I’m well aware of the concept of federalism. I just see it as a relevant thing to point out to the good people of the district, and once I do they don’t say ‘I don’t care’ or ‘it’s irrelevant.’ They say ‘that’s terrible.’ They’re pretty much outraged,” said Dennison.

“I find it extremely relevant because she calls herself an independent voice for South Jersey.”

Allen responded that Dennison “does seem to be running against George Bush.”

Today, Allen supports Giuliani for president and says she’s not as enthusiastic in her support of Bush as she used to be. Chief among her disappointments in the President is his threat to veto the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), which she enthusiastically supports.

“Right now I’m very disappointed that he isn’t engaging with the American people,” said Allen. “He seems to have drawn the wagons around him, and I feel like he’s not hearing us on a lot of different issues.”

But this race will not be decided by the Iraq War or abortion, Allen said. Rather, the concern of her constituents is property taxes—an issue that Dennison attacked her on last week.

Dennison’s strategy of tying Allen to Bush could help the fledgling candidate, said David Rebovich, managing director of the Rider University Institute for New Jersey Politics. But it won’t be easy.

“The argument’s a stretch and a difficult one to make in the state political environment. It may be his best shot, but it just strikes me as being an uphill battle,” said Rebovich.

Comments

A few things


Not only did the "moderate" Allen vote against clean needle exchange, which would lessen the amount of diseases passed between drug users and the general populace and decrease the spread of AIDS in particular, she also did not vote for or against the civil unions bill or a recent stem cell funding bill. She may say she is for it, but when push came to shove, she refused to take a stance. The Chafee analogy works to an extent, but that R.I. senator was a borderline hero in my book for being a constant voice against the illegitimate war in Iraq and working to eliminate the death penalty; needless to say, the calculating, triangulating Allen is a far cry from such a principled senator.

And this narrative of Dennison running against Bush is getting a bit old, though I am glad that the state's political elite are seeing this race in district 7 for what it is, that is, a competitive and spirited election that the upstart Dennison may actually win. Dennison's recent salvos have focused on Allen's hypocrisy on asset monetization, her lack of consistency on property tax relief, and her connections to the BurlCo GOP corrupt elite -- all state issues. If Allen doesn't want her name associated with that abyssmal failure of a president, then she shouldn't be a keynote speaker at Women for Bush 2004, nor campaign on his platform in her failed senate bid in 2002.

Of course, political analysts create narratives in any race, so I don't fault anyone for saying Bush is playing a role in Dennison's attack route.

One of the reasons that I support Dennison -- I'm wildly enthusiastic about this former Clinton speechwriter and community activist as a candidate -- is because I think he, like Corzine, will make pragmatic choices on public education and health care for the state, expanding areas where there are deficiencies, while at the same time paying the foremost attention to the needs of his constituents rather than constantly focusing on statewide campaigns and ambitions, like Allen.

This is a real, legitimate race, folks, and Dennison may very well walk away the victor.  We all know what happened with the Whitehouse race in November.

08/07/07 6:35 pm

What a Joke


I am glad that Dennison is classifying people by party and not the person. In this district where clearly people have shown they vote the person not party, this will BACKFIRE on him. It is insulting to this district that he thinks people are so stupid that they would actually listen to a desperate wannabe squel about GOP instead of what his platform is. Martins yammering about how lovely dennison is and how enthusistic he is and how he supports him makes me wonder because Martin cannot even vote here! Maybe we need to remind Dennison and Martin of the fact that YES we do remember what happened last year but how do you explain freeholders winning their seats as GOP, and Saxton and Smith retaining there seats?? Any answers boys? Dennison does not seem to realize or care that in this district people vote for the person and regardless of how many times he keeps harping R R R, people will still go Allen allen allen. Maybe Martin can lend you some tissue when you lose huh? OH ONE MORE THING - MR DENNISON THIS IS NOT RHODE ISLAND

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08/07/07 10:11 pm

Pro-civil union?


I think Diane Allen's stance on civil unions cannot, at least at this point, be construed as either overwhelmingly positive or negative, considering she abstained from voting either for or against them (probably in an attempt to find a meta-stable position somewhere in between that ultimately just made her seem wishy-washy).

08/07/07 11:06 pm

Alphabet


Dennison is taking the Camden County approach. You see in Camden they only teach the Alphabet up to the letter "D" and then they stop. OK class "D" is for Democrat, say it together. but teacher what comes after D. You don't need to know anything else just push the button that says D. Class dismissed!

08/08/07 7:56 am

Ha!


You Republican guys, sadly, don't even understand the strategy. But, when you watch the results come Nov. 6, you'll get it. See, kids, some people are that much smarter than others. It's not your fault for not seeing the coming storm. Diane Allen doesn't even know what to make of this guy and from what I've heard, she and her newly formed Republican team are running scared. Dennison wins in a huge upset and becomes the youngest state senator in state history.

08/08/07 8:37 am

Quite Frankly...


Diane Allen is a little to liberal for my taste. Nonetheless, she is a workaholic and represents her district well - as witnessed by her victory after victory.

 

It is naive to assume, and quite insulting I'm sure, that the voters in the 7th District do not know that Diane is a Republican.

 

After all, they always vote for her first in the Republican column before switching over to C&C in the Democrat column.

 

Also, and maybe I am wrong, most people are looking for balance and dedication. They certainly get that with Diane.

 

I think this will not be a good year for the Dems in the 7th. Diane will win (as usual) and she has two very talented running mates - one of whom, Brian Propp, is well known for his charity work and for being a Flyer.

 

Dennison's strategy, while certainly interesting, may backfire as it assumes the voters in the district he wants to represent are too stupid to know who they are voting for.

 

If I were advising Team Allen, I would point out to voters that Dennison thinks too little of their intellect and believes he must spoon feed them information because they are too dumb to know who they are voting for and why.

 

I guess I would follow this up with a question to the C&C guys – do you also think the voters they represent are too stupid to know who they are voting for and why? Do they also share their leader’s disdain for the voters choice to vote the person and not the party?

08/08/07 9:40 am

>>>>>>“I’m well aware of


>>>>>>“I’m well aware of the concept of federalism. I just see it as a relevant thing to point out to the good people of the district, and once I do they don’t say ‘I don’t care’ or ‘it’s irrelevant.’ They say ‘that’s terrible.’ They’re pretty much outraged,” said Dennison. <<<<<

 People are "pretty much outraged"? When you parse your words with "pretty much," that sends off a red flag in my book.  What are they saying is "terrible" anyway?  That she doesn't have the word Republican on her fliers?  This guy's lack of substance may doom downballot races as well.

08/08/07 10:45 am

Ridiculous


Yes, let's parse every politician's words quoted by reporters. Having been a reporter, I can tell you that any reporter--unless he/she uses a tape recorder--will admit that that isn't fair. But, I see nothing wrong with what was quoted above. I should also add that it seems to me that Dennison is telling the voters the full truth, which is far from what Allen has done for 12 years. If the voters receive deceptive flyers, it makes sense for their hopeful leader to point this out to them so the voters will realize the duplicity and see who they're dealing with. No one likes being duped. Dennison is a leader and one I'll be proud to call my state senator next year.

08/08/07 11:00 am

If I were Dennison..


I'd be afraid to label myself a Democrat. Jon Corzine is below 50% and heading south. All he has done in office is raise sales taxes, defund colleges, tried to sell off good assets and now is breaking with people in his own party with a wildly out-of-the mainstream position on immigration. and plus him and the yo-yos in the Assembly shut down the government last year, which denied people basic services and risked the security of New Jersey. That's really who I want to be associated with. Honestly do you Democrats REALLY think Corzine is doing a good job? Bush is old news, while Corzine potentially has six and a half more years.

08/08/07 11:03 am

Let Him Rant


I think it is wonderful that Dennison is running around labeling voters, I think it is great that he is wasting time pushing the R word, and I think it is great he is still running against Bush! It is insulting to voters for him to act this way, and people are not stupid! The 7th district has proved to be made up of educated and savvy voters who do NOT VOTE PARTY LINE all the time. Where Dennison and Ronald and Martin are ALL sadly mistake and will be devestated in November is that the party letter means nothing in this District! Year after year Diane has represented her constituents above board and THAT is why she keeps winning. Whily Dennison is out there with his alphabet soup, Diane is meeting people, helping people and creating a better life for the residents in the 7th District. Oh and I do agree, Brian Propp apparently may actually take a seat in the Assembly too! Sorry Ronald, but the GOP cleaned house and is stronger then ever. Like I said, I am glad Dennison is doing these stupid press conferences, because Diane is doing her job. Diane allen by 10%

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08/08/07 11:56 am

Dennison brings on the Bush


Dennison brings on the Bush narrative by constantly talking about him and Allen. Like I said before I dont care if Diane Allen has a shrine to George Bush in her closet, it doesn't have anything to do with her stances and her issues in state matters.

Last time I checked this is still a state issues election. Maybe I'm wrong..Dennison seems to think it's a national election this year.

Lastly an abstain is not a vote in the negative. While it's also not positive just think at is "She didn't vote against civil unions". So no matter what she really feels about the issue, she didnt deny homosexuals the ability to have civil unions and that's what really should matter to anyone.

08/08/07 12:30 pm

Well Put


I know same sex unions are important to Marty but he does not live here to sqwak about it, so you effectively but an nice truth to that issue. Also but abstaining from an issue actually shows more class because you are not just going down your party line, you are using what is in the best interest to serve your people. Diane by 10%

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08/08/07 12:39 pm

Gopgal


Are you being anti-gay? If so, I don't appreciate it. That is yet another STATE issue Dennison is clear on. He is, without a doubt, pro-gay rights and Allen's record on this is abyssmal. Voting "abstain." What a wuss?!?!? Dennison will be a strong voice for all residents, including our gay residents. Allen's vote for abstention on this very important civil rights issue demonstrates what a phony she is. You'll never get such wishy-washy calculated weak-kneed crap from Dennison.

08/08/07 1:59 pm

Huh?


Ronald, first I have family members who are gay and I love them dearly. Secondly, I have many friends who are gay too. Thirdly, in the priority of things in this district, civil union rights are really not on the top of that field IMHO but taxing people is. You seem to forget that gay rights is not the poltiical issue; it is a smoke screen for people to scream and yell like the abortion issue. But you seem to refuse to accept that while you and I may be pro gay rights other voters are not. To call Diane a wuss because she does not agree with certain stances is and I do not know what they are, chicken and you know it. You cannot force someone to accept another persons lifestyle or opinon no matter how you try, Of course Dennison is not wishy washy, after all he is too busy planting and painting R's around the Town and Diane is working to take care of her constitutents

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08/08/07 2:44 pm

Endorsement


NJEA endoreses Diane Allen for Senate in the 7th District. Diane = 2 endorsements Dennison = zero Pattern is already starting Diane by 10%

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08/08/07 8:27 pm

Dennison betrayed by his own lackeys


The poor guy was probably banking on the NJEA endorsement from his fellow travelers. His two running mates and his Senate opponent received the coveted nod. Awww.

All the Bush bashing and screaming out windows doesn't change the facts: the fix is in. Allen and the two Democrat toadies will be sent back to Trenton.

 

P.S.  The comparisons to Chafee are inaccurate.  Chafee faced a primary challenge and was generally reviled by rank and file GOPers (what few there are in RI).  It was only the last minute infusion of "independent" voters ginned up by the RNC ground assault that pulled out the primary.  Allen had no primary opponent.

Given the choice between a liberal blueblood Republican who inherited the seat and a liberal blueblood Democrat born with the same silver spoon in his mouth, the sheeple in RI decided to go with the truth in advertising candidate (i.e., the Democrat).  While Allen is generally in the left of the GOP spectrum, she does not go out of her way to kick the party and is independent enough to face off against her lightweight opponent. 

08/08/07 9:30 pm

people ARE stupid


And I do not mean to sound arrogant, it's just the damn truth. There is a lot of talk on these posts about how voters will see through Dennison's attempt to label everything "R" so Allen becomes a victim of guilt by association, because "the people" are smarter than that. The people on these posts might be, but the typical man on the street? Forget about it! If you want proof, go knock on your neighbor's door and ask them a few questions, or stand at the coffeepot at Wawa for a few extra minutes this morning. You will be sickened. People are STUPID about politics, and they fall for these juvenile tactics because it corresponds with their level of understanding what is really going on in the world.  Don't underestimate the significance of this fact: while you are at home watching CNN or Fox tonight, your neighbor, whose vote weighs just as much as yours, will be watching "The bachelor: will he pick the midget or the tall girl?"  If Diane Allen wants to make sure she is returned to Trenton, she would do well to take this Dem strategy seriously and not dismiss it as something people will "see right through." They won't. And George Bush is still hated enough to lose elections for Republicans in '07.

08/09/07 9:33 am

Granted


But for Dennison to insult the voters is a sin. Fortunately most people who vote FOR diane knows she is an R because they have to go from one column to the other. But, Diane is a class act and Dennison is like this annyoing bug that keesp buzzing around. Eventually she will be able to squash him soon.

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08/09/07 11:34 am

apt analogies redux


Commonsensepolitico: That same type of political superficiality is also evident in the tired metanarratives that Republicans give for Dems in N.J. and elsewhere, ranging from "Democrats only want to raise taxes" to "Every problem in the state is traced to the Democratic Party." Addressing the core problems themselves necessitate moving beyond three-year-old level political consciousness, but the same faux narratives persist; hence, the obverse of that, Allen = Bush, also persists. As I mentioned before, besides rightly connected Allen to failed Bush policy agendas, particularly ones that continually keep New Jersey soldiers in an endless, resource-depleting war halfway across the globe, Dennison has been sounding the note on Allen's poor record on state and local issues, from flip-flopping on asset monetization to voting for, then against, the implementation of short-term property tax relief.

I also agree with Arnie's assertion that the analogy of Allen and Chafee is limited, but for different reasons. Chafee was a voice of reason within a brief moment in time, 2000-2006 (and the present, to an extent) when the far right, headed by the Christian Coalition and other agents of intolerance, had taken over the party and the country. He was one of the last few honorable Republicans and was a person whose principles were known (against the death penalty, anti-war). Diane Allen, who triangulates on issues, hides from substantive debate, has initiated no true property tax reform or ethics reform despite being in the legislature for 12 years, is no Lincoln Chafee, even in her wildest dreams.

08/09/07 12:09 pm

All this hatred


Martin has for a woman he cannot even vote for! I can only assuem that his hate for her is because she still is a winner and will keep on winning and Martin cannot control those voters especially the democrats. The voters in my district are smart enough to know what she is politically and they dont care! No matter how hard Dennison tries to run his campaign on R R R and Bush Bush Bush, most people are still going to go across that aisle for Diane. It just shows this is not a bright man, he has no substance or platform other than I am better than Diane because I am a Democrat. Please, keep it up Mr Dennison because the more you do, the more Diane is out there doing her job.

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08/09/07 1:00 pm

Allen, Allen, Allen


The most cursory of research into Allen reveals some extremely shady connections, ranging from a $1000 contribution from Boss Paulsen to Jeannie Paulsen giving $1000 (source below) to other "bundling" from the corrupt BurlCo GOP. Did we ever find out more about that 200k "non-job" job given to a GOP Municipal Chair by the BurlCo machine? http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/glenn-paulsen.asp?c... http://www.city-data.com/elec/elec-RIVERTON-NJ.html

On the topic of Bush, I can see how all Republicans want to "abandon ship" with this president, arguably the worst in U.S. history, but Allen has gone out of her way to tie her destiny to his platforms; it simply isn't a plausible argument to say that a pro-war stance on Iraq, as Allen has, doesn't lead to a loss in local resources because of hundreds of billions spent there -- not to mention the loss of lives of New Jerseyans because of the Bush war Allen has consistently supported and refused to vote against in the state senate.

I know that Rich Dennison wouldn't vote against property tax relief for his constituents, nor would he not take a stance on stem cell funding and civil unions. Once again, the analogy between one of the last good Republicans, Lincoln Chafee, and a triangulating, out-of-touch, entrenched incumbent like Allen is strained at best.

08/09/07 6:03 pm

Who Cares


about civil unions and stem cell research as being a priority to most residents marty?? Even though I am pro both they ARE NOT THE MANDATE IMHO for what people want or need! Your own hang up on civil unions is your business, but every post you assail diane because she didnt jump through hoops to accommodate your thinking. To me, taking care of our residents which she HAS been doing instead of monkeying around with bogus issues like Dennison is throwing her way is what is going to keep her in office, The rest is pure liberal pandering and has nothing to do with the average voters in the 7th district, OH BY THE WAY which you have NO IDEA of who they are or what they stand for Marty. Allen by 10%

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08/09/07 7:06 pm

More Allen Press Releases Coming?


Despite Acting BurlCo GOP-Machine-Corruption Chair Dawn Lacey's claims, Diane Allen is part of the problem with property tax relief and fiscal solvency in the state: She is most certainly not the solution. Since she, as a partisan Republican, jumped at the chance of supporting Whitman's boondoggle budgets, which got us into this financial mess in the first place; and now she finally, after 12 wasted years in Trenton, puts out a press release that the state should live within its financial means.

Here's a clue for Deadbeat Diane: Why not actually put forth a substantive property tax relief plan instead of putting out press releases, and why not actually vote for a state budget that would allocate direct property tax relief to district taxpayers rather than voting against it?

And district voters should know and care that Allen wouldn't vote in the best interest of gay and lesbian families, nor would she take a stance on stem cell research. And, of course, there was that unfortunate clean needle exchange vote, and many more such moments...

08/10/07 8:34 am

Please Read


it is painfully obvious that Martin's only mandate in any election his stance on gay and lesbian families and their rights. To hell with the rest of us and how a single parent family has to scrape by or how seniors have to choose between medication and food, etc. His hatred for this woman knows no limits and I think that the more people read it the more it is reinforcing support of Diane, especially since that toad cannot even vote for her! Diane by 10%

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08/10/07 3:35 pm

Allen out of touch


Acting Chair Dawn Lacey a.k.a. gopgal08: Only with twisted, fallacious logic can one twist support for gay and lesbian families with the most basic of rights (a civil union bill that Allen wouldn't support) somehow with the disenfranchisement of single family parents and straight families. If Allen supported working families, she wouldn't have voted against property tax relief, and she would have initiated some type of substantive property tax relief in the past 12 years. Allen's aides (Boss Paulsen, perhaps?) have to give you better talking points!

Unlike Allen, whom we can only guess what she's been doing the past 12 years (someone really needs to film her to find out what she actually does do, if anything, in her legislative capacity), Dennison will provide strong and decisive leadership immediately if elected to the state senate. There will be no waffling on key issues such as civil unions or stem cell research, no siding with the Bush administration on Iraq, as with her recent non-vote on the surge, and no substituting press releases for real, substantive leadership and presence in Trenton.

08/10/07 11:23 pm

Fallacious logic??


Hey martin are you willing to put your money where your big lying mouth is>???? I am Not Dawn Lacy (but thanks for the compliment) sorry that you cannot fathom people can think for themselves without a D or R next to them! Can you prove I am Dawn?? Back up your stuff sonny and lets see the proof. It is painfully obvious by your new rant that you are grasping desperately to find anyone to believe you and it is not working, you hate a woman that you do not even know or cannot even vote for which is very telling. Now as I said before, your mandate of gay nad lesbian rights is YOURS only and not eveyrone elses. You seem to forget that even though I am pro choice, pro civil unions and pro stem cell research, others dont give a chit, and because any politican not kissing your heine on these issues really lowers the credibile of your argument. Diane did right by abstaining if she didnt feel comfortable, had enough information, if it was not going to benefit residents to do so because she follows her conscience and law without being another sheep Diane by 10%

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08/11/07 2:35 am

oh And


Marty if you read the article, Diane voted against this and other bills if it did not provide the other stipulations attached, this one I believe was supposed to have some extra benes for our seniors. Go figure! Marty you and Dennison needs major lessons in simple government.

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08/11/07 2:38 am

Gopgal


I just wanted to write that yes, it is obvious that you and Martin will never be buddies! But, besides that and your obvious big time support for Allen, can you at least admit that this race has all of a sudden become one of the most competitive in the state this year? Knock Dennison all you want but I think you're starting to see the result of good strategy. At the beginning, this was a race that no one cared about because everyone assumed no one could beat Allen. Now it's in the "competitive" column. Knock Dennison all you day if you'd like, but like I've said before, this guy is furthest thing from stupid out there. It's only mid-August and this is now viewed by observers all over the state as a competitive race. That to me is pretty amazing. Imagine where this will be in October. Dennison wins (not sure of the margin, but who gives a damn!)

08/11/07 1:15 pm

Non-Competitive


Dennison is far from being the strongest competitor to Diane and right now, he is no where near where his running mates are. Case in point, the past two days in two of the local papers, Diane with C &C have been with Corzine signing bills and press conferecing. Get the Newsweekly paper which is a small but largely delivered paper and there is the picture of all of them together. You cannot call a race competitve when you have someone who has NO platform or Plans to protect the residents of this district. All anyone knows of Dennison is that he is the Dem running agaisnt Diane, and this whole R thing is so utterly offensive to voters because it makes it sound like they have stupid and that they do not know who they are voting for. That is a stupid move on his part. People, including many democrats are going to break for Diane. It is inevitable and regardless how you spin it, the facts are in her court. As long as Diane is going town to town to take care of issues that need to be addressed and actually getting many things accomplished in Trenton, that is keeping her in the Senate. Its a bitter pill to swallow Ronald, but that is why people keep re-electing her because she does her job. Diane by 10%

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08/11/07 2:58 pm

Martin & GOPgal meant to be together


I say we set up a date between Martin and GOPgal...ronald can be the waiter.

Anybody else willing to back this idea?

08/11/07 3:38 pm

Deadbeat Diane Redux


I know that GOP Chair Dawn Lacey (gopgal08) keeps claiming that Sen. Allen is going "door to door" for her campaign, but if she is doing so, it may surprise residents who haven't heard from her in years. Every few years, Deadbeat Diane seemingly sees her shadow, just like Punxsutawney Phil, and finally gets to her constituent's needs but is otherwise, as Ronald has suggested, daydreaming in Trenton of being a U.S. senator or doing, well, absolutely nothing. I wish that someone could follow her with a camera to see what she actually does in Trenton.

Dennison is right to point out Allen's close connection to Bush, which led to her not voting against the Iraq troop surge in the state senate, but he is also holding her feet to the fire about terrible decisions and non-decisions that directly affect her district. It seems odd that Allen would vote to support Homestead rebates early in the year and then vote against the actual budget to fund said property tax rebates; though the property tax relief plan as it stands is certainly in need of revision, it is still one worthy of support, but Allen had to be a partisan Republican once again and vote the way her party leadership wanted her to do so. Allen is actually a rather partisan Republican when it comes to her voting record, and barely, if ever, crosses party lines -- Sen. Lance says "jump," and she is all too ready to say "how high, sir." And, of course, there were those unfortunate moments where she voted against a clean needle exchange that helps stop the spread of AIDS and when she was too calculating and triangulating to take a stand on civil unions and stem cell research...

Dennison would not, as Allen did, sell out N.J. troops to the Bush administration's prolonged conflict in Iraq, and he would ensure that a property tax relief plan, however flawed, would be actually implemented for working New Jerseyans rather than voting against it. I know where Dennison stands on the issues but unfortunately can't say the same about Ole Deadbeat.

08/11/07 4:44 pm

Proof Martin?


Can you prove I am Dawn Lacy?? You only keep talking about it because I got your number. But please prove how Diane sold out our troops to iraq? Please prove how she was even able to vote for the war?? This should be gooooooooood diane by 10%

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08/11/07 9:12 pm

If you are Dawn Lacy, be


If you are Dawn Lacy, be sure to get Diane to the debates. The inside word is that she's considering backing out of them out of fear of getting destroyed by Dennison.

08/11/07 9:47 pm

Dawn Lacy


Is a peon who does whatever Layton and Russell tell her to do. She makes Loran Oglesby look like Mary Matalin.  If she is spending this much time talking about the GOP's biggest star who regularly flirts with 60% then that spells major doom for the County races.  Hopefully Jeff Kasko is still nearby and Ed Waters is on alert because they're gonna need the big guns this year.

08/11/07 11:03 pm

Ronald


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA You owe me a new keyboard for spewing coffee on it Now, put down your crackpipe and come back to reality!

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08/12/07 12:19 pm

To Mason


If you and other want to believe I am Dawn Lacy, fine, that is your right, but it shows that you concerned to try to out people because they have gotten your goat. I know who Dawn is and trust me, she has already from what we hear brought a new energy to the GOP. Plus, for what it is worth, she is the first female County Chair in the GOP! And Mason, she is the man in charge, not anyone else as you intimate. Ronald, you wish Diane would back out of the debates; Dennison is a little ankle biting annoyance who she can deflect easily. You forget that Diane has held her own for years, especially winning a discrimination law suit from her news station against those big ole boys. Trust me, It is painfully obvious that Dennison is the one that is afraid, he should be. How come as of late his own running mates C&C are getting press WITH Diane and endorsements WITH Diane?? Where is wittle ricky??? Go ahead and say what you will; point is being made as we speak where Diane is racking up endorsements and the GOP has re-energizd. Diane by 10%

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08/12/07 12:30 pm

Dawn Lacy, Deadbeat Diane redux


It speaks volumes for the failure of the BurlCo GOP when its Acting Chair -- on a public forum -- compares those who disagree with her as part of the "Hitler Youth," makes thinly-veiled homophobic comments, calls a Democratic opponent "a little ankle biting annoyance," calls another poster a drug user (put down the "crackpiple"), and makes generally juvenile comments about any and every Democrat.  For a good laugh, take a look at what gopgal08/Chairwoman Lacy had to say about me in this rambling, pointless diatribe on that amateur site Red Jersey:

http://www.redjersey.net/2007/08/10/liberal-hatred

These are the amateurs running the BurlCo GOP behind the orders of Boss Paulsen and that lobbyist who is calling the shots for them, and they are a prime reason why this corrupt organization is losing its grip on countywide offices. My question for Deadbeat Diane is whether she will return campaign contributions from party boss Glenn Paulsen and Jeannie Paulsen and whether she will use her position on the ethics committee to investigate the widespread corruption in the BurlCo GOP. The answer to both is probably no, of course, since she is invested in that same machine.

On a related note, did anyone else read in the BurlCo Times about the latest controversy with Addiego and the freeholders trying to create a slush fund out of the taxpayers' pockets? What's new, right?

08/12/07 1:28 pm

Wow


Obiviously people dont like you do they martin?? Last I forget this is a free country to post on, and obviously there are many people out there who just do not like what you have to say. Thats ok, since you cannot prove I am anyone but who I am, I understand your frustration. I understand that you are frusrated because you cannot control people and I also understand when someone throws the truth back to you, you have a hard time accepting responsibility. By the way, I think who ever wrote that article really hit the nail on the head for you to respond and post the link. By the way, marty, how do you know how many hundreds of people of people read these boards?? But, is this person called it right? Of course, your hatred for Diane and the GOP is legion here, and I guess someone called you on it. Like I said, go ahead and call me whomever, if you were to find out I was just another voter who has an opinion well, you would really look stupider than you already are. Any person with integrity would back up their claims, you cannot, but I am not surprised.

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08/12/07 4:38 pm

And


If you loathe the GOP so much, why do you read Red Jersey??

And for the record, your bringing in the spouses name of the former GOP chair is really scummy. But hey, you never fail to surprise me with your desperation.

Do you actually think that the voters of the 7th District are going to be swayed by your brand of thinking? No. Sorry, but your obsession with this disrict by someone who does not live here or cannot even vote here is quite amusing.  Is it really because Diane and other GOP still win regardless of what your demograhpic stats say??

I think that is the answer! 

 Diane by 10%

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08/12/07 5:06 pm

"on that amateur site Red Jersey"


You know for a liberal Martin, your quite unaccepting of those who don't share the same views as you, unless they have a D next to their name that is.

Thanks for the publicity and the unprovoked attack on our site though, clearly you are foaming at the mouth about us.

Keep it up Martin.

I would suggest nobody else respond to Martin or comment on this thread anymore, he likes the attention too much.

www.redjersey.net

"Where we don't pretend we are actually a legitimate and fair source of news"

08/12/07 5:18 pm

Martin is Clearly Wrong


I for years have read this site actively and as of late been very patient with the ramblings of some posters, but when someone like Martin starts going on about a particulare Senator he does have a loathing for and starts calling out posters because he is in the wrong, I am going to break my silence and do my first post! Firstly, Martin, you have no proof or suggestion who is whom when they post. To keep rambling on and on that this gopgal is someone other than he or she is just adds lunacy to your argument. Secondly, this gopgal has never once, NEVER ONCE said that they are against gay right, hates democrats, or inferred drug use except in a joke (nice one too) to another poster that he or she has become so called friendly with on this site. I have read all of the posts and not once has this been said. Thirdly, you, Sir, have been the one preaching your hate, and frankly it is getting tiresome. It seems gopgal and others have tried to guide you in a direction to enlighten you on what is going on in their home district and yet you fail to take any of their suggestions to heart especially since you do not live there or can vote there. Fourth: Your continued harranging of Senator Diane Allen. This is a woman who clearly has demonstrated to my satisfaction a clear and constant voice of knowledge and experience to our 7th District (yes I LIVE IN THE 7TH) and has done well to keep deserving our support. You, Sir, have no idea of what she has done for her residents and I am glad to be able to cast my vote for her. Fifth: oh, did I mention THAT I AM A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT! OMG! Horrors! I said it! What do you think about that Martin?? I am an educated voter! I am one of those voters who are your worst nightmare; I vote the person not the party and will gladly NOW be telling all my fellow democrats and friends to keep backing Diane Allen. Sixth Rich Dennison - this guy is a numbskull. When I read about his press releases and no way is he remotely qualified for this seat, nor should he even be running! My goodness, have I been really voting for a REPUBLICAN?? Wow! well, guess what Mr. Dennison, this democrat proudly will be casting his vote for Diane again and will be making sure that all my friends, neighbors and family do likewise, even all my democratic friends and family members. Oh, and Mr. Dennison, your harping on George Bush is having no effect on many of us either. In summary, I am a democrat but I still want what is best for my district, and that is Senator Diane Allen. Jack Conners has done a lot too, I have to add that, but I thank Martin for his "loathing" because he has made my decision very clear to keep supporting Diane. Please do not think that all democrats feel the same way Martin does, we do not. Some of us do not buy the fact that just because Dennison has a D next to his name gives him the right to have our vote. And one more thing; your attacks on gopgal are so unwarranted. You only make yourself look foolish accusing this poster of being who they are not. There are thousands of people that read this site every day and probably hundreds that post on it too, your wild accusations only are a diservice to you and what your message is. I am glad I got that off my chest!

08/12/07 6:29 pm

Very Nice


It seems that voters like Pablo are going to be Dennisons worst nightmare. That was a great post, and I thank you for your kind words. These are exactly the kind of voters that make the difference. And, he is right because just because someone has a letter in front of their name, does not mean they automatically get that vote. In retrospect, I do apologize for the comment to Ronald, but hey Ronald, you post innane posts about Allen being so afraid of nobody like Dennison, well, be prepared for a backlash. You are much smarter than that. But I think E Sedler has the right idea. His post is on the money, but sometimes it is fun to get under his skin although he does not admit it. And I agree, he just gave a lot of free press to Red Jersey! But let me tell you what I am: I am a strong, independent woman who is a business woman, wife, mother, who supports our Country, our President, our elected officials, and our brave men and women who are serving overseas and who have done the time to protect our Country and others. I am also a free thinker who can not be bullied or bought. I am not someone who tolerates over the top bashing or people who make out and out accusations with no proof whatsoever. I am someone who tries to joust with lively debate, but will not stand for out and out loathing without personal proof of that person being actually hurt. I am sure there are many many many Pablos out there and those are the voters that make all the difference.

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08/12/07 6:42 pm

Haven't I heard that person before on this site?


One would think that stream of consciousness narration reached its apex with Faulkner, but not when gopgal08/pablos3/catzmom03/Dawn Lacey gets angry and posts long, pointless diatribes against yours truly and Dennison, who is growing stronger by the day. Let's stop this silly charade. Talking with such a character is reminiscent of a conversation with Sibyl.

The BurlCo GOP machine has had its corrupt practics brought into the light, whether its funneling money for Allen through Paulsen's firm, Capehard and Scatchard, or using no-show jobs to cheat taxpayers out of their hard-earned money, as with Bark and that scandal. And then there's Lenape-gate, Public Financial Management's contracts, Bob Stears and the BurlCo Bridge Commission indictment (love that latest piece on their slush fund efforts), and much, much more...

Dennison is a superior candidate to the triangulating, disconnected Allen, who only has exacerbated the fiscal mismanagement in Trenton by supporting pension-stealing policies of the Whitman administration and voting against property tax relief for district 7 taxpayers. Dennison's thoughtful approach to public education and health care, particularly for the uninsured, makes him much more trustworthy on those and many other issues.

08/12/07 9:08 pm

Martin Took the Bait and Lost!


Well, I expected this and Martin lost! I had a feeling that he was going to somehow flip out and try to link me with other names. It was too easy and he fell for it. Martin, sir, you can say what you want, call me sybil for all I care, but bottom line, I am who I am, and I am a Democrat who votes for the person not party and bottom line, all your defending a person that has nothing to bring to the table to better our district and a person who has no plans to help people except to say " vote for me because I am a Democrat" is a waste of time. I think the point to your rants Martin is the fact that you cannot understand nor can you accept that democrats like myself will not be supporting Dennison. What a waste of time and energy to devote your posts to nothing but conspiracy theories of who you think is who in your little mind. Actually, I have to post this - Martin you remind me of that stunted emotionally character in the film, Bench Warmers (I think I may have seen this posted so sorry for the redux) who builds peanut butter castles in his moms basement! In other words, your posts have lost their luster, especially on this first time posting democrat!

08/12/07 9:55 pm

Agreed


Time has come for me to take E Sedler's advice. Martin thrives on anything positive or negative about himself, and what he has to say, so I think I can say there are more important issues that Martin Martin Martin. I wonder what other name he will attach me to next, but no matter, he cannot prove who I am or anyone for that matter, so on to subjects at hand. Diane got great press today in the BCT once again WORKING for her residents. I posted this week that my pal who lives in one of the river towns was at a meeting whereby Diane was there and today was a great write up for her. Nice to see our State Senator on the ball, doing what she loves to do and that is represent us! Funny, havent seen any positive press on Dennison, oh, thats right, you have to do something positive to get positive reaction!

Diane by 10% 

 

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08/12/07 10:30 pm

Dennison has received plenty


Dennison has received plenty of positive press as of late. Gopgal, Are you reading the same newspaper? By the way, with the "benchwarmers" movie reference, I'm assuming "Pablo" is you. I don't know of one Democrat (and yes, it's a big "D") who will support Diane this year. This year the Dems have a star in Dennison and Diane is running scared. I trust you that you have no idea of the grassroots support that Dennison possesses. Just wait. He comes from a very well known family name and his resume, accomplished over 30 years, is incredibly better than anything that Diane has accomplished over 60 years. Just get ready to eat crow. This storm has been coming and keeps growing with every press conference and every day Dennison gets out there. Diane can't compete. She probably knows this deep down. If not, she's been deluded by a bunch of "yes men/women." Travel around the district like I have, talk to Dems, they are, without exception, pissed at Diane and inspired by Dennison. Plus, let us not forget about the incredible fundraising advantage state Dems have over Repubs. As this race gets more and more coverage, do you think the state party won't give Dennison anything he wants to beat Allen? The state party, Corzine included, is incensed by Allen and she will feel their wrath. He will have a blank check while Allen cries about no raising anywhere near as much as she used to under the corrupt Paulsen days.  Dennison wins. No doubt.

08/13/07 12:12 am

Additionally


Do a google. Dennison won over 1300 more votes from Dems in the primary than Diane won from Repubs. Sorry, gopgal, but I don't see this overwhelming Dem cross-over support. The numbers are official and they speak for themself.  And I don't see why Dems who support Diane would vote for Dennison in the primary and then for some stupid reason change their vote come November.  They either wouldn't have gone to the polls for the primary or they wouldn't have voted for Dennison while at the polls on the primary. 

08/13/07 12:50 am

Are you kidding Me?


Seriously, think about what you are saying! A primary means jack because not ALL PEOPLE vote in a primary! I know many GOP who didnt vote because there was no contest! Many dems we know didnt vote either Ronald, but they are all voting for Diane! Primarys mean squat UNLESS it is a totally contestet primary. I am surprised that you would even post this, I thought you were smarter than that! The general election will show the support for Diane once again.

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08/13/07 2:00 am

Admission and Question


Mr Luvitz: I do admit that my family and I were on vacation during the primary and actually, my other pals and I had no intention of voting in the primary because unless it is contested, I really is more of a formality than anything else. That may sound lame, but that is my choice. I do know that many GOP folks we know from our lodge and other places were not planning to vote either in the primary. But, gopgal is correct; the number of dem voters do not equate at all (it is wishful thinking though) to an absolute victory in November. It was a very low turnout for the primary in general this year because there was no major races at the head of the ticket. Now, here is my question. Are you suggesting that as a democrat, I should abandon my personal choice and my other dem pals should do the same too just to elect your friend Rich Dennison? Just because he wants the seat? Or because we are democrats? I read his resume and although impressive, why should we or any of those people and groups that Diane has spoken to and helped (my group being one of them) why should be abandon the person that has helped us? I feel if it aint broke dont fix it.

08/13/07 11:32 am

Article


Roanld, please do not start acting like Martin pointing fingers at posters who may not agree with you about Dennison. I know you do not want to hear it but there are many dems that are going to be voting against Dennison for Allen. But with that being said, if you are going to point fingers, let me ask you this question - what happend to your article "if Wally were a Rotarian?" I remember reading it and thinking that well maybe you were Dennison? You were pretty close to comfort in that article and I think you were asked on another thread if you were him. But regardless of that, if you are Dennison, I would tone down the desperation in my posts because you almsot sound like Martin. Is that why the article was removed from Politicsnj? In any event, Diane has dealt with bigger fish than you can imagine and has won hands down. You seem to generalize that all Ds are not gonna flock to Diane and we both know that is not going to happen. There have been several posters on these threads from democrats that have said flat out they were not supporting Dennison. Right now with less than three months to the elction, the dye has been cast unfortunately for you because the more you harp on Bush and D's next to names, the more people ignore. Trust me on this, Dennison is only known as the Democrat running against Diane. I along with many other people gop and dem alike will be in attendance at the debates when scheduled. This will ultimately be amusing.

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08/13/07 1:02 pm