The College Republicans at Seton Hall University are angry because the university denied their request to have former U.S. Rep. Tom Delay, R-TX, speak at the school.
"The actions Seton Hall took against conservatism this week (are) unconscionable," Chairman Christopher Stark said in a statement. "Just four years ago we welcomed with open arms the former Iranian President - a man who began the nuclear weapons program and had documented human rights violations - yet Tom Delay is clearly more controversial and less intellectually in tune with academia for him to appear on campus."
Jill Matthews, spokeswoman for Seton Hall, issued the following statement on the school’s behalf as explanation for its rejection of Delay:
"The University felt the legal and ethical questions surrounding him did not make him an ideal choice to speak on campus at this time."
Delay resigned from Congress after he was indicted on charges of conspiracy to violate election laws, charges he denies and which he maintains were politically motivated.
Stark said, "First of all, what happened to the very Catholic and the judicially sound principle of presumption of innocence? It is obvious that this university only applies its Catholic Mission when it suits a liberal agenda."
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Liberal? How the hell is this liberal?
The Iranian president is no more liberal than Mussolini was. This story is way out of line in implying that he is, and that Seton Hall is somehow showing liberal bias by allowing a hateful, Holocaust denying, Jew-hating, homophobic, dictatorial asshole to come speak on their campus.
yea, i mean Iran is by no
yea, i mean Iran is by no means liberal... the president was just more relevant as a person in power of a growing country and as a potential threat to our national security.
Way Out of Line
FormerlyAnonymous -- You are out of line with your comments.
You are the first person I have seen use foul language on this website.
Regardless of your viewpoints, and regardless of how passionate you feel about them, please do not swear. If I see you do it again, I will formally complain to the editor.
On so many levels
This is just wrong. To equate Tom DeLay with any duly elected world leader is a false comparison. DeLay wasn't even the top ranking Republican in Congress. From a world leader point of view, DeLay just isn't in the same league. As far as "presumption of innocence" being a Catholic belief - my understanding is that only those too young to make their first Confession are presumed innocent. After that, you must confess your sins to be forgiven. To my knowledge, DeLay has never done that (not that I'm on his AOL IM Buddies list). There is, indeed, a LEGAL presumption of innocence that the Catholic - and most other - churches support because it is intended to promote social justice to those who are weak, dispossessed, and downtrodden by society. It's unclear how that would apply to DeLay. If one looks at Seton Hall's Catholic Mission page, there is really nothing that would support bringing Tom DeLay to the campus - other than the part where SH welcomes people of all faiths. My understanding is that Mr. DeLay was not refused because he represents a rather thin sliver of Protestantism that does not believe Catholics are fellow-Christians - so, again, I don't see how this applies.
its not b/c he's conservative
maybe Seton Hall just has an anti-crook policy.
The Republicans Are Right on This....
....but not for the reasons they proclaim.
DeLay deserves an opportunity to speak freely on a university campus just like the Iranian President did at Columbia.
From my perspective; they have a lot in common and equally deserve to be fried in the bright light of day.
I would pay to attend the event (if the SH students didn't fill up the seats) and to have a chance to question Mr Delay.
The best way to deal with rot is to shed lots and lots and lots of bright searing LIGHT on it!!!
From Frederick Douglass
oldtimer
I apologize for the strong language.
Liberal Bias YEA RIGHT
I just feel that as the Vice-President of the Seton Hall College Democrats and the former Events Director of the Seton Hall College Democrats I should pipe in on this converstation. While I respect Mr. Pizarro I do feel that in order to have a fair article here he should have contacted a member of the Seton Hall College Democrats. In such a conversation I would have told him that they University is not biased toward Liberal individuals and in fact is more likely to deny most Democrats on the basis of their typical pro-choice platform. Last year after Sen. Menendez and Sen. Kerry were scheduled to speak at Seton Hall the invite was revoked and several fairly bogus excuses were given as to why the Senators would not be able to speak on campus. So no Seton Hall does not have a liberal bias but it happens to be a Catholic University who can accept and deny any request for a speaker if it wishes whether it pleases the students or not. Does the move to deny an invite to Tom Delay upset me, yes because it denies the students the option to go and see him speak but does the University have the right to do so yes it does!
To FormerlyAnonymous
I would just like to make it clear that Seton Hall has not hosted the current Iranian President that was Columbia University however the Seton Hall campus has been visited by other controversial world leaders and politicians including a previous Iranian President. I would also like to point out that while Mr. Democrat's comment is funny it is not necessarily true seeing as we have a building on campus that used to be called Kozlowski Hall as well as a section in that building named after Arthur Anderson. Just pointing out that the University isn't biased toward any particular group necessarily but it has definitely accepted crook money in the past.
Punctuation / Grammar
Heavens, Mr. Spagnolo, I assume you are upset, but can't the undergraduate representative of the Democratic Party at a noted New Jersey Catholic university spring for a couple of commas? You'll find it 's located between the 'm' key and the '.' key ... I find unpunctuated ungrammatical prose far more offensive than the 'strong language' cited above.
Oh, and Tom DeLay can burn in prison and in hell as far as I care, but for better or worse Seton Hall does get to say who can use its bully pulpit, as we discovered a few years ago when one of its students attempted to start a gay-straight alliance. But is it a LIBERAL institution? Oh, pu-leeze Louise!
SETON HALL
SHAME ON SETON HALL
Iranian President
I know who hosted Ahmadinejad this month. In the post it reads:
denniscmcgrath on Punctuation and Grammar
Yes sir, I must say I did not see a necessity to add much punctuation and grammer. An action which, I must say my girlfriend; who is an English major, would most likely chide me for. However, I must also add that is is quite rude and hypocritical to critisize someone on such a matter when you yourself need a bit of revision regarding spelling. I hope my use of punctuation and grammar was sufficient for you this time around. Best regards, Steven Spagnolo Vice-President Seton Hall College Democrats