May 23, 2006 - 5:01pm

Lloyd Bentsen (1921-2006)

The death of Lloyd Bensten leaves George W. Bush as the only living Texan to never win electoral votes from New Jersey in a national campaign. Texans have traditionally run well in the Garden State: New Jersey voters have supported John Nance Garner (for Vice President in 1932 and 1936), Lyndon Johnson (for Vice President in 1960 and President in 1964), and George H.W. Bush (for Vice President in 1980 and 1984 and President in 1988), but not Bentsen, the Democratic nominee for Vice President in 1988, or Bush, who lost New Jersey in 2000 and 2004.

Comments

What about Ross Perot?


What about Ross Perot?

05/23/06 5:50 pm

Did anyone really support H. Ross? -BHD


Did anyone really support H. Ross?

-BHD

05/23/06 6:03 pm

Bentsen -- probably most noted for his debate one liner to Quayl


Bentsen -- probably most noted for his debate one liner to Quayle that "you sir are no Jack Kennedy."

And since we are on this NJ-is-the-center-of-the-universe kick here here, Perot's VP candidate is also most noted for a debate one liner "Why am I here?" He never won in NJ either.

05/23/06 7:00 pm

Benson should have been the Presidential canidate instead of Duk


Benson should have been the Presidential canidate instead of Dukakis. He appeared much more Presidential and his Moderate leanings may have carried NJ

05/23/06 8:59 pm

Admiral Stockdale! Nice pull.


Admiral Stockdale! Nice pull.

05/23/06 8:59 pm

It's noteworthy that Bentsen is celebrated not for any important


It's noteworthy that Bentsen is celebrated not for any important policy positions or accomplishments, but rather a cheap ad hominem put-down obviously scripted by some staffer. Quayle may not have been a great leader, but he certainly was closer to JFK's positions on a strong defense, pro-growth tax policies, and essential patriotism than the Democratic party represented by Dukakis/Bentsen, Clinton/Gore, Gore/Lieberman, or Kerry/Edwards.

05/24/06 2:33 am

I saw a re-airing of the Quayle-Bentsen debates a little while b


I saw a re-airing of the Quayle-Bentsen debates a little while back on C-Span. Quayle actually stayed on focus, while Bensten was pretty much in attack mode. I personally think Bentsen would have won this race if he had run for Prez instead of V.P. The problem was that he had to run with an ultra-liberal on the top of the ticket, and therefore did not have the luxury of presenting his own moderate credentials.

05/24/06 2:39 pm

You guys and you're moderates... where's the fun in moderation?


You guys and you're moderates... where's the fun in moderation?

-BHD

05/24/06 3:08 pm

Hey Aude Sapere - how about a little respect for the dead? Simpl


Hey Aude Sapere - how about a little respect for the dead? Simply amazing how some people show an appalling lack of decorum.

05/24/06 3:53 pm

Relax, Roscoe, and reread my post. I didn't even criticize Bents


Relax, Roscoe, and reread my post. I didn't even criticize Bentsen - though I certainly could have - but rather commented on what OTHERS have elevated to be his most significant moment. Here was a US Senator, VP candidate, and Treasury Secretary, yet the only thing he's known for is the JFK crack. Your reply implicitly supports my point, since you did not counter by noting a single Bentsen accomplishment, and be honest, you couldn't think of one without looking it up. Me neither.

But that doesn't mean Bentsen had no greater accomplishments. It just means nobody knows what they are. I wrote my earlier post after watching the NBC News piece on Bentsen's death, which ran a clip of the cheap shot but didn't mention any real accomplishments. My comment was more about what the media prefer to focus on, and how it hampers rather than helps us understand the real issues and the real differences between candidates and parties.

But as a big fan of decorum, do you not think it a shame when someone uses a forum for exchanging ideas and educating voters to instead insult and belittle his opponent? And don't you think it backfired out of all proportion, as this man - certainly more accomplished than you or I will ever be - will always be known best for delivering an insult and not for anything he may have done to make this country a better place? And that if decorum were observed in the debate, his known legacy would have been greater and more positive?

05/25/06 12:04 am

Aude Sapere, I agree. Here's a guy who was a congressman and Se


Aude Sapere, I agree. Here's a guy who was a congressman and Senator (and chairman of its Finance Committee), Treasury Secretary, war hero, and sucessful investment banker. The media also fails to mention that in '88 most polls showed in a 4-way match between "H.W." Bush, Dukakis, Quayle and Bentsen...that Bentsen would win. I personally think that the one smart thing Dukakis did during that campaign was select Bentsen as his running mate.

Dukakis ran an awful campaign, I mean this was during tough economic times for farmers, so he did extremely well in the prairie states (e.g. Minnesota, Iowa, and a relatively norrow loss in North Dakota). But the guy lost Maryland, California, NJ by double digits, and only won his home state of Massachussets by about 6 points. This ticket should be been reversed.

Note to Mike: If Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, you would tie each of the SOB's arms and legs to 4 trucks and have them drive off in different directions.

05/25/06 1:09 pm