May 8, 2008 - 3:56pm

Pallone says he's with Clinton until the end; says Andrews is "not a progressive"

Representative Frank Pallone acknowledged today that Hillary Clinton is the underdog for the Democratic presidential nomination, but said that he will continue supporting her until she either wins or decides to end her run.

“I’m sticking with her. I think it’s her decision to decide what she wants to do,” he said. “As long as she’s running I’m supporting her.”

Pallone disputed buzz that Barack Obama is sure to win the nomination, saying that it’s “still possible for (Clinton) to win”

“You still have some primaries, you still have the superdelegates and you still have Florida and Michigan,” he said.

Pallone said that he doesn’t understand why smaller states like New Hampshire and Iowa get to have the first primaries. While he said that states should abide by the rules, he thinks that Democrats should figure out a way to seat the delegations of Michigan and Florida, who were stripped of delegates by the Democratic National Committee after they moved up their primary dates against party rules. Clinton won both states, though Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan and did not campaign in Florida.

“You have to hark back to the fact that the rules don’t necessarily make sense, and for us to disenfranchise two large states doesn’t make sense,” said Pallone.

Pallone made the comments during a media conference call about John McCain’s scheduled visit to New Jersey in which he was to talk about the environment. The event, originally scheduled for Sandy Hook National Park – in Pallone’s congressional district -- has been canceled due to inclement weather.

The McCain campaign is exploring other options for events – possibly for tomorrow.

Pallone portrayed McCain as a Bush Republican whose policies would be “simply not good for New Jersey,” and noted that he scored a zero percent rating from the League of Conservation Voters.

“The policies of the Bush administration, and I fully expect them to continue under McCain, are to basically advocate more drilling, trying to find sources of domestic oil at the expense of the environment,” said Pallone.

Pallone also hit McCain on his opposition to the expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program – a hot button issue with New Jersey Democrats and some moderate Republicans.

When asked whether he agreed with Lautenberg’s characterization of Democratic Senate candidate Rob Andrews as a Bush acolyte, Pallone demurred but offered some pointed criticism of his congressional colleague.

“I don’t think there’s any question that Rob is not a progressive. Frank Lautenberg is a progressive. His policies, whether on the war or the economy, have always been progressive, and rob is to his right,” said Pallone. “It’s not just increasing the Democratic majority in the Senate. We also want to make sure the senate is more progressive… and if you have Democrats like Lieberman who are not progressive on a lot of issues, that’s not necessarily helpful.”

Comments

Pallone's loyal (good) and foolish (not good)....


It's one thing to leave the dance with the one that "brung ya." I admire that and it shows at least a decent amount of character and appreciation (paybackto election-year Clinton pop ins @ rallies and fund-raisers?). All in all, kind of a class move if you ask me.

With that said, to keep bringing up Florida and Michigan shows a real weasel side that many people simply don't respect.

If Pallone or Hilary or Corzine or anyone objected to the banishment of Florida and Michigan, they should've said something BEFORE THE FACT. After the fact, makes ya look like kind of a hack-tacular sleazebag.

Disenfranchising the voters of Florida and Michigan? Maybe. But the voters and the parties have a voice now: it's called the internet, blogs, chat rooms, and the like. Somebody should've said something. Maybe I missed it(and please call me out if I did) but there should have been an uprising among the state parties about this, instead of their "sc*** you!" attitiude they gave to the DNC.

In the end, this just makes Pallone look like a small-time hack, albeit a classy and loyal hack.......

05/08/08 4:30 pm

Pallone is blind indeed!


Frank said that "Hillary Clinton is the underdog for the Democratic presidential nomination." Are you nuts? She is the most qualified candidate there was, is, and will be!

Frank said that "he doesn’t understand why smaller states like New Hampshire and Iowa get to have the first primaries." Who is this guy anyway? Where has he been for last four decades?

Frank said that "You have to hark back to the fact that the rules don’t necessarily make sense, and for us to disenfranchise two large states doesn’t make sense." This guy should get into politics where the rules are sacred and make things moving. Without the rules this country would be corrupt and ruled by political bosses.

Frank said about McCain's policies that they would be "“simply not good for New Jersey.” Does he mean that policies voted for by the other Frank, yes, the mumbling one, are indeed better for NJ. I thought that NJ was in a financial crises. Just ask that governor of NJ - Jon.

Frank said that McCain will "advocate more drilling, trying to find sources of domestic oil at the expense of the environment." How about some more relieve to blue collar and working people of NJ from all these fees for drilling, taxes on oil producer, etc. Have you thoutht about it, blind man?

Frank said that "I don’t think there’s any question that Rob is not a progressive. Frank Lautenberg is a progressive." Unless you define stupid as progressive, we agree. You got it.

Frank said that "It’s not just increasing the Democratic majority in the Senate. We also want to make sure the senate is more progressive." Did you mean more socialist? Should we dare to say communist? That's still progressive beyond progressivness.

I wish I were blind like Frank. Which one?

05/08/08 5:31 pm

Pallone is delusional.


Anyone who describes themself as a progressive is just afraid to call themselves a liberal!

Pallone is the most overrated member of the delegation. He has zero coattails for years has enable Shore Republicans versus helping Democrats at the municipal, county and legislative levels.

Rob Andrews is far more in line with NJ Democrats than Frank Lautenberg or Frank Pallone, both tax & spend liberal appeasement cronies.

Andrews is in step with NJ while Pallone is to the left of Code Pink! The guy is unelectable beyond his copngressional seat and is dumb for attacking a guy who if je loses will take back his house seat.

Maybe Pallone should ask the fossil about his support for Joe Lieberman for president in 04!

Vote Column - All the way!

05/08/08 7:39 pm

Pallone cracks me up


he reminds me of my Aunt Susan in Abilene!

05/08/08 11:07 pm

Pallone is Being Less than Frank...


He knows Hillary is toast. The only way she can win at this point would be something extremely dirty or extremely tragic.

Hillary had a chance to take a few weeks and bow out with grace and saved face while helping the party .

Her recent racially insensitive counterproductive remarks disqualify her from any further "loyalty" on the part of Pallone or of any other super delegate.

 

 

From Frederick Douglass

If there is no struggle there is no progress......Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.

05/09/08 10:38 am

I find it intersting that


I find it intersting that Pallone is going after Andrews' political philosophy.

Both Andrews and Pallone started their House careers at roughly same time and they both initially had moderate voting records. In fact Pallone supported and Andrews opposed the first Gulf War. Plus Pallone was originally pro-life.

However, CD 6 (through a combination of redistricting, demographic changes, and overall changes in voting behavior) throughout the 90’s moved from GOP-leaning to solidly Dem. Once the voting patterns of the district changed, Pallone’s voting record became increasingly more "progressive."

In contrast Andrews' district always had a major Dem-lean to it, yet he chose to carve out a centrist position. It seems to me like one of these guys bases his political philosphy on the merits of the issues, whereas the other one bases his philosophy on the philosophy of those who vote for him.  I'll leave it to my fellow bloggers to decide who is who.

05/09/08 11:09 am

Pallone is a Right Wing Conservative


Pallone, the Chair of the very committee in the House of Representatives that is charged with reviewing bills which affect the health of people across this country, yesterday took an unprecedented step—he capitulated to the powerful Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA) to the detriment of patients nationwide, patients in NJ, and his own constituents. He will not post the Lyme bill in Congress until the IDSA convenes its new guidelines’ panel and issues a decision. He has chosen no treatment for chronic Lyme patients, no alternative treatments and no supplements.

 

Pallone might as well join forces with the ultra right wing crazies who still believe HIV is an act of God against gays. His actions place him squarely in the special interest’s corner, along with George W Bush. Like HIV, Lyme disease is a serious and insidious disease that is only recently been identified and the treatment of which is complicated and poorly understood.

 

The IDSA has been shown by recent investigations by the Attorney General of Connecticut to be a cartel of vested interest masquerading under the banner of science.

 

What Mr. Pallone has done is tell Lyme patients that their ability to have research hinges on the decision of a private medical society that has commercial interests in the results and that has been under investigation for allowing its panel of researchers with extensive commercial interests to corrupt its guidelines’ panel. Essentially, he is delegating public policy decision to a medical specialty society whose guidelines are under scrutiny and that has evidenced a profound lack of accountability and responsibility in policing the rampant conflicts of interests of its panel members.

 


The Lyme disease controversy is not about patients, it is not about the greater good, it is about greed. Patient health has been sacrificed by IDSA to pave the way for those who hold patents, those who have an interest in Lyme testing and vaccines, and those who have a consulting relationship with insurance companies. Pallone’s public alignment with the commercial interests of the IDSA show how powerful commercial interests in medicine can drive healthcare and exclude entirely the interests of patients.

05/09/08 11:35 am

It's a good thing!


Having Pallone say Andrews is not progressive (or liberal) enough, is actually a good thing for Rob.

Keep it up!

05/09/08 12:24 pm

Follow the Money


Pallone has taken mucho bucks in donations from various 'commercial interests' in the health-care industry

05/09/08 2:26 pm