After Kelly battle, Myers has $155,406 in the bank

For a change! It has been one month since the primary. And your computation of funds is irrelevent. He would not have to pay back any debt until after he retires or is defeated in an election. And Please don't forget that Saxton has over $1 million in the bank. Don't think will use it? Your tage line should be nocommonsense.

With Myers trailing Adler in cash on hand by like $1.3 million here's a thought...maybe Myers should ask Lautenberg for his $500 dollars back!

A contribution is a contribution. Your reasoning pablos is just plain stupid.

Oh and by the way, I just heard about a poll that has Adler up 15 in CD-3. With the endorsements piling up and a 10 to 1 fundraising advantage for Adler... Put a fork in Myers, he's done.

To add a quote from one of my favorite movies...The Mighty Ducks, "Let's end this one now, and we'll all get home in time for Melrose."

If Ocean County were supporting Myers, he wouldn't have $155,000 cash on hand. They're still steaming over the divisive negative campaign Myers ran against Kelly and these numbers continue to support that.

Besides Myers' victory over Kelly and Murphy, his congressional campaign in cd-03 has been nothing short of an abject nightmare. First, he has to explain himself for hiring a consulting group that admitted to illegal phonejamming in N.H., then there was Jeff Sagnip possibly working for Myers while public taxpayers footed the bill, then he had to explain a $2300 contribution from Glenn "Boss" Paulsen, and then there was the unfortunate comment that Myers made where he said, in the middle of what many economists call a recession, that the economy is "basically strong." There are other such moments, too. It's gotten to the point where Layton and Russell won't even let Myers speak in public, and they instead speak for him (as in the last two politickernj articles)

Then, every major organization, from the Teamsters Union to the Fraternal Order of Police to The Sierra Club to the Recreational Fishing Alliance has endorsed his superior and smarter opponent, Adler. And now, there's that little bit about finances, which even Chris Russell has to squirm about in his reply above. Being down by $1.75 million to $2 million isn't just being an underdog: It's the equivalent of having virtually no chance of winning. Myers can't hire staffers, he can't put out commercials, and, to the best of my knowledge, hasn't/can't put up an office in Ocean County, where Boss Gilmore hasn't backed him. By the way, pablo3, Myers came in third in Ocean County, behind Murphy and Kelly, Adler has had an Ocean Co office open for months and made significant inroads there, and the district overall has over 11k more Democrats in this already heavily pro-Democratic year.

The only thing conservative about me is how reticent I am about calling races. But, the financial releases in this politickernj article reveal that today is the day that the final nail was driven in Myers' coffin, and the race is all but over, with victory for Adler all but certain. We've still got hard grassroots work to do, but, barring some miracle, John Adler will be the next congressman from cd-03.

Looking at basic history of elections past.

I need to utter a big "DUH" regarding Kelly winning Ocean. You would have had to be a complete nut to think he woulnd't have won. Secondly, Ocean will back Myers since he is the candidate. So what if there are hurt feelings? That is the way the game is played. Kelly I am sure is a good man, but he had to have known that without Saxton support and Burlco he was going to lose. But he has come out 100% in support of Myers already.

Susan Levin had as big if not bigger war chest going into her fight with Saxton and she still lost.

But, Martin, I would like to know where you get your info on Layton and Russell. I think your posts while trying to be informative are not always correct. I have been at a few events where Russell and Layton have both been there (I finally met Mr Russell) and Myers was talking up a storm.

Oh and a contribution is a contribution yes, but frankly, it is old news and when it was publically announced by Myers what it was for, it was over.

I guess this campaign is going to be reduced to innuendos, negativity and misinformation? Wooooweee it is gonna be a long one!

Let me get this straight.Myers is broke, has lost major endorsements, doesn't have support of the Ocean County Republican, and apparantly now is down 15 points in a poll, and somehow you still expect him to win? I think people are living in a pablos fairytale.

And pablos, you're obviously a bit of a newbie to politics if you believe that what people say and what people actually do are the same thing. Welcome to the big leagues son.

Sorry, but Kelly AND the Ocean County GOP have firmly endorsed Myers.

Sorry to burst that bubble.

Also, way to go OC, I love your posts!

It is rare that I feel the need to comment on this board, but once again I feel it is my obligation to correct the record. The tone and tenor of many of the posts is usually not worth it in my humble opinion. However, MartinOne has made the implication that Jeff Sagnip has violated not only House rules, but Federal law by accepting a taxpayer-financed salary while working for Chris Myers' campaign. Nothing could be further from the truth. As Jeff's former "boss", I know, too well, Jeff's unmatched integrity and commitment to the law. We have spoken at length on this matter. Jeff received approval from the "Ethics" Committee regarding his work on the Myers' campaign. Hopefully, this will put to rest the false accusations and innuendo being spread about an honest, tireless working individual named Jeff Sagnip.

There has to be a Twilight Zone episode or sci-fi show where the characters live in their own little worlds and pretend everything is alright, even though the world outside doesn't conform to their preconceptions. That is what it seems, to a rational audience, when BurlCo GOP apologists, including the cowardly lion/the oc and others contend that everything is fine in Myers land, this despite the facts relating the contrary.

The oc/the cowardly one continues to make a logical fallacy, the fallacy of false equivalencies, in equating this race with the Levin-Saxton one. For starters, Myers is less known than Levin, even less known than Adler, has a nearly $1.75 million-2 million deficit to make up, is running in a Democratic year, has received no endorsements while Adler has had a coup with them, and has had, as I've outlined, less than stellar campaign moments thus far. How a popular incumbent like Saxton is equated with Myers, who was the third choice behind Allen and Connors in the first place, in this formulation is beyond me.

With Myers' massive financial deficit compared to Adler, he has no resources available for outreach, and donors will be reticent to give to a campaign that is doing so poorly financially. Unfortunately, the NRCC, which is nearly broke, hasn't come to the rescue, and Saxton has already given a whopping $250k to the NRCC. What makes me particularly confident about Adlers campaign, though, besides the massive influx of Dems in the district (a 20k advantage in BurlCo alone; an 11k advantage in the district) is that Adler has better policy positions on foreign and domestic initiatives, while Myers repeats the same failed policies of the Bush-Cheney administration. Myers favors an extension of the deficit-increasing tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, consider the Iraq War a good course of action to take and favors no withdrawal of U.S. troops, and, on social issues, is against a woman's right to choose. I can't wait to compare Myers' provincial, out-of-touch positions to Adler's favorable ones in a one-on-one debate.

I agree with those who keep saying that the money and endorsements are not going to automatically constitute a win.

Secondly, Bush and Cheney are not running and Rich Dennison got pummled last November trying to tie Diane Allen to Bush. He failed.

Mr Adler is a career politiian who really has no grasp of what the actual John Q public and Susie Soccer mom live day to day. Adler already lost the support of the Vets and will continue to lose the Senior support because he cannot comprehend what it means to live on a fixed income.

But, I am quietly smiling and confident in Myers. Please do not worry about Saxton or any other fundraising because Myers will prevail without wasting millions of dollars on advertising. Many voters are disgusted when pols use that much spending on advertising and many are turned off by the candidate that continually stuffs their mailbox or floods their TVs with negative ads.

But a question if Martin or anyone wants to answer.

How many jobs has Adler created for people? How many people has he helped obtain employment?

And how come Adler keeps voting against the very Military support he so now keeps saying he is in favor of?

First: I am referring to Adler's living now and how he has raised taxes on the residents of Cherry Hill. You can how he voted throughout his carrer on issues.

Second, Lockheed Martin is one if not the largest companies in South Jersey that employs thousands. You seem to think that Myers is only known in Medford, thats all, but with satelite offices all over including Cherry Hill, he is known.

As to Adler vets/defense, Myers is a Lt and a veteran who served his Country well. Myers already has the backing of Vet organizations and Adler has not. Adler and for the record, Rob Andrews has not supported certain requests for grants and funding that have been asked for by Defense companies such as Lockheed.

But I am still amused at all the Adler supporters already claiming a victory based on endorsements and money.

I would agree about Adler winning easily, except he will only carry Cherry Hill and with Ocean County that usually leans very GOP, Burlco will be the breaker.

But again, how many jobs has Adler created and how come no one can answer?

Oh and while we both agree on Dennison/Allen, arent you doing the same tying to align McCain with Bush and Myers???

No one questions Myers service in the military, that is not the issue. Yes, Lockheed Martin is one of the biggest employers in the district, but do you think the thousands of employees know one of the thousand VP's in the area? I bet you 3/4 of the LM employees don't know who the hell chris myers is. And just because he worked for LM you think he's getting every single one of their votes? Let's be realistic real seriously.

Please share with us what vet groups have backed Myers, because I know of none. There you go, funding requests by private defense companies? LOL please, you have to be kidding me. Defense companies making millions off the war. Your and Chris Myers problem is you don't distinguish between private companies making millions and the government and the DOD. Chris Myers making $350,000 a year off the taxpayers by these funding requests. Funding requests from the defense companies my @$$.

In the Senate John Adler has been a great advocate for vets. Just to name a few, Adler sponsored the NJ equivalent of the new GI bill for our guardsmen. Adler has called for the creation of a full M/V committee in the senate. he has sponsored legislation to allow deployed guardsmen the opportunity to keep their nj stars scholarship so they can go to college. I have seen john adler at every military/vets function in SJ for the past several years.

Where do you think Rudder works? Rudder is largely supported by his co-workers at Lockheed and Myers is above him.

You do the math

I did the math... and it concluded that time after time Chris Myers has raised taxes as Mayor of Medford.

Come November, the citizens of NJ-3 will do the math too. It will show that they will reject Chris Myers and his failed record in Medford, and it will show a big check mark in the victory column for John Adler. 

Jersey Fresh, relax dude, you are getting way to upset over the fact that people do not agree with you and your posts.

I know you love Adler, but what will you do when the chipping away at Adler and failed policies and truths come out?

I hope you will get some good meditation under your belt. It is gonna be a long haul.

First, Tweedle Dumb - aka Tinker Bell, it is clear that you are not as smart as you think you are. For an "educator", I had higher hopes for you that reading comprehension would be an easy task. Apparently, I was wrong. Not only can't you comprehend the written word, your lack of imagination is appalling. Use your own material. Now with regards to your inability to understand literature, someone should remind you that the lion actually had courage. But I need to remind myself that you do not have the foggiest understanding of the word courage. Did you forget that you are the grapefruitless one who would not meet me for a drink? Did you have something better to do on that day? Bikini waxing? Scolding those bad little boys in your class and making them stay after school? Whatever it was, look in the mirror when you call someone out for not having courage. But again, I need to remind myself that I can't take you seriously. Anyone who would claim that Rick Dennison ran the "best" campaign in the State of NJ is off of the reservation and cannot be taken seriously. Keep snorting your fairy dust Tink and watch out for the Captain's hook.

Now, Tweedle Dumber - aka - jerseyfresh. So there are no similarities between Adler and Levin? Neither lost to Saxton? Neither are liberal lawyers from Cherry Hill? Neither received the majority of endorsements in their races? Neither have or are on pace to outraise their opponents? Neither have an utter contempt for the military? All one would have to do is look at the endorsement of the Council for a Livable World which advocates for drastic cuts in our military spending. Those cuts would affect not only Lockheed Martin in Moorestown, but the three bases that make up the new Mega Base. Moreover, Adler has shown how much he appreciates our veterans by doing away with teaching our children the meanings behind Veterans and memorial Days. But teaching them about how Danny has two mommies is a-ok in John's book. Additionally, the JWV certainly do endorse candidates. Sam Poditz who is a local chair has come out in support of Chris Myers along with his organization. By why let facts get in your way? But why should we expect someone who is as unimaginative as Tinker Bell to get the facts - any facts - straight. You can't use your own material either. Are you next going to quote from the wannabe rock group Timbuk 3 like Tinker Bell did? You obviously don't know Jim Saxton or Chris Myers. I am sure you never gain the public's trust to have served with Saxton in any capacity. So Tweedle Dumber, continue to fart and clear your throat. One day you may get a clue.

When reading posts from the oc/the cowardly lion, one notices immediately two things: a bunch of chestbeating, complemented with anonymous posts and a fascination with the male anatomy, particularly his obsession with the phallus. Consequently, such posts reveal much more about the oc/the cowardly one (who has yet to reveal his name, despite such chestbeating) and his masculinity issues and interest in the phallus than anything else. But moving on to more substantive issues than this poster's hypocrisy, sexual hangups and cowardice...

Lame Republican talking point #1: "Adler is anti military because he opposed state mandated teaching of holidays." You conservatives whine about having local control and the problems of federalism, then make an argument in favor of state control of local issues when it befits your paltry smears. Adler is pro-military support, as evidenced in his understanding that the Iraq War is stretching our military perilously thin; he's been at McGuire and Dix during deployments and returns; and he's proposed a state bill that would be the equivalent of the federal GI Bill proposed by Sen. Webb. The Council for a Livable world isn't anti-military; they're anti-dumb wars. Their policies would make the world a better one by making our domestic military stronger by not engaging in debacles such as the Iraq War, something Chris Myers unquestioningly supports. No withdrawal date, no benchmarks, an open-ended commitment: That's the Myers-Bush-Cheney plan for Iraq.

Lame Republican Talking Point #2: "Adler is from Camden County and he's a Democrat!" Adler is an independent Dem, even voting against some of Corzine's main proposals, and has a superior policy platform than Myers, who has yet to publish hardly any policy positions besides stating platitudes about getting all illegal immigrants out of the country, being against a woman's right to choose, and unabashedly supporting the Bush-Cheney agenda. Voters aren't looking for D or R labels: They're looking for solutions, and that is why Democrats, who offer real reform on environmental policy and health care expansion, are favored by double digits in congressional ballot polls. Of course, BurlCo voters are troubled by the patronage machine of Boss Paulsen and his minions, and Myers is too closely connected to that machine, often deferring to Paulsen or his neighbor Layton for judgment and answers to questions.

Bottom Line: Myers is in a deep hole in this campaign, one that he probably can't get out of. Massive fundraising numbers for Adler, combined with Myers' relative anonymity in the district (He can't get out his "winning" pro-war, social conservative message without money!), loss of key endorsements and thus ground support early on, campaign gaffes (The economy is "basically strong"), and a pro-Democratic year in a district that has 11k more Dems, and, well, the writing's on the wall.

You are very funny Jersy Fresh! We were personally at two separate meetings where Sam Podeitz PUBLICALLY acknowledged his support of Myers!

So who is lying?> Podietz or you? Frankly I would believe Podietz over you or Adler. But, be that as it may, what is public is not private; many of the JWV have already aligned themselves with Myers, as well as many other vet organizations.

I know it is frustrating to see that not everyone is going to follow lock step with Adler and the "sheep" but like I said and I saId this last year and got flammed but in the end I was right; it is still early and the Myers camp has yet to unload the truth on Adler; the truth on his raises, voting, and his alignments with Corzine et al

Oh and to remind your own words: just because an organization endorses a candidate does not mean that every member will vote that way.

Actually, this year and next with the Governor is already providing some much needed discussion.

Finally, pablos admits that we works for the Myers campaign! In two seperate posts today the word "we" appears. "We were at two meetings" and "We were at an event."

I hope everyone on this site sees this post, pablos03: Myers staffer.

LOL, you equate a post from the oc has truth and fact? I want a real statement issued by the organization you think has endorsed Myers. Myers really needs to fire you from his staff pablos. Chris Myers: failed record in Medford, failed to hire good staffers.

Jersey Fresh, you obvioulsy have shown your lack of credibility. You assume just because I use "we" means that I happen to work for the Myers campaign. We is my spouse, family and friends. I do not know of another "we."

If I had the time I would rather enjoy working for Myers, but I do not.

I hate using the word "assume" because it breaks down to "ass of u and me" so when you "assume" I work for Myers or anyone else, well, that is what you look like.

I could "assume" you are a shill for the Adler camp but because I know better not to jump to any conclusions about what people do, I do not make myself look foolish.

Also, can anyone please provide me with the link to the Adler site that has these pictures? I cannot seem to get the site on my computer.

Thanks