June 5, 2008 - 9:10am
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Is Norcross just a local guy?

The powerful South Jersey Democratic machine has lost their last three statewide primaries: Rob Andrews for Governor in 1997, Jim Florio for U.S. Senate in 2000, and Andrews for Senate in 2008.  That doesn’t say much for the supposed influence of party leader George Norcross, who so far has not been able to extend his clout outside his own region on the state.  Norcross, who was the driving force behind Florio '00 and Andrews '08, was able to help Andrews win some key endorsements in northern New Jersey, but no organizational endorsements or county lines.  Norcross is enormously powerful – ultimately, winning two State Senate seats in 2007 was more important to his organization than a U.S. Senate seat -- but is he just a regional guy?

WALLY EDGE can be reached via email at politicsnj@aol.com.

Comments

Your ignoring the dynamics


Your ignoring the dynamics of each of these races. The 1997 Andrews loss was an extremely close election against a guy (McGreevey) who had already run a statewide general election and came a few votes from being Governor only 4 years prior.

Jim Florio was unfairly doomed from the start because of the perceptions of his administration and the "anti-tax revolt" that occured. Not too mention the personal wealth of Corzine.

This recent Andrews loss was clearly a set up run for another office, like Governor. His 97 election was 11 years ago and in the mind of most rank and file voters, is long since forgotten.

06/05/08 11:07 am

not really


I didn't know Jim McGreevey ran a statewide election in 1993? It must have been a tough primary against Florio?

Andrews lost in 1997 to a local Mayor in Middlesex County who had no statewide name recognition.

Wally is dead on - Norcross has a lot of power in South Jersey and strong ties throughout the state but not enough to translate anywhere close to statewide control. Norcross also tried to take control of Monmouth County which has failed.

Lautenberg won big in Ocean County and nearly won Cumberland and Cape May Counties, where Andrews had the line.

06/05/08 12:14 pm

not really


I didn't know Jim McGreevey ran a statewide election in 1993? It must have been a tough primary against Florio?

Andrews lost in 1997 to a local Mayor in Middlesex County who had no statewide name recognition.

Wally is dead on - Norcross has a lot of power in South Jersey and strong ties throughout the state but not enough to translate anywhere close to statewide control. Norcross also tried to take control of Monmouth County which has failed.

Lautenberg won big in Ocean County and nearly won Cumberland and Cape May Counties, where Andrews had the line.

06/05/08 12:20 pm

Norcross is still the man


Norcross was with McGreevey in the 12-days of Torricelli, so you could argue that he won that primary.

His power is definitely more regional than statewide. But so what? That's the same for all the Bosses. If Adler pulls off a win in D3, he'll have 2 Congressional Districts under his power, that's more than any other Boss can claim in NJ.

Watch for him to get the Lt Gov to be someone from South Jersey too. That's a primary in itself.

06/05/08 12:23 pm

Norcross is Boss Hogg


Boss Hogg from Dukes of Hazzard.

Norcross has some pull in his country, but is just a loser in real life.

06/05/08 1:21 pm

GN


I wouldnt simply say he is regional-but he is far more effective at picking up local races. His money and prowess gets dwarfed in the North and his influence gets diluted statewide. He is still one of the strongest campaigners for State Assembly and Senate seats...look for him to try and influence more of them up into the North in the coming years

06/05/08 1:22 pm

Amazing levels of stupidity


George Norcross has the Speaker of the NJ Assembly and the Senate Majority Leader ( a coup that required him to garner significant support outside of his region in direct opposition from "Please-still-call-me-Governor" Dick Codey).

No one cares who the hell the Congressman and the U.S. Senator is. They are irrelevant offices for the purposes of statewide politics.

In terms of who is the most powerful person in statewide politics today, there is really no question that George Norcross ranks at the very top of the list.

06/05/08 3:50 pm