This will be my last post as a blogger on PoliticsNJ. I have really enjoyed the opportunity over the last year to comment on local and national issues and this site is a perfect forum for it. I am impressed with how far this site has come in the last decade – it is a rare forum that puts Bob Torricelli and Steve Lonegan on the same page. I look forward to watching the site’s continued success as it expands across the nation. This truly is a great New Jersey export.
As a final word, I want to entreat my fellow New Jerseyans to get involved in the political process this year. The historic presidential race has already generated tremendous excitement throughout the country and there are still more than eight more months of speeches, ads, rallies, policy ideas and debates to come. It is important that we continue this focus through the Congressional and local primaries in June and on to November’s general election. There are many very important races this year, including a number of rare open seats, and our participation is vital to ensuring we are properly represented in Washington.
This site is an integral part of politics here in New Jersey, and I am grateful that it exists as a daily (or hourly, depending on your fondness for it!) reminder of the importance of the political world. It has been my pleasure to be a part of its continued success and I wish the site and its editors all the best in the years to come.
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Phony to the end....
Reading this last piece of drivel reminds me why NJ is in such a sad state. After almost single-handedly destroying the Republican party in NJ, Christine had the nerve to 'bless' us with her wisdom for the last year while refusing to answer any of the serious issues that have been posted on her blog site. To quote a famous former govenor, "Christine and NJ, perfect together!". Where else can you find so many horrible politicians in one state.
Thank God
You ruined the NJDOT and sold it to the highest bidder and laid off low paying workers that were the bread and butter of the DOT.Go away
Not to mention
screwing up higher education in this state. Go back to mink and manure country and stay there. And take "her own woman" with you.
A final post
From someone who has nothing to say.
She needs to go help her daughter run for congress. That should ensure a Lance victory in the primary!
Vote Column "A" - All the way!
And not a moment too soon...
so when does Torricelli hit the road?
Let's Be Nice...
Governor Whitman....
I am not sure why you are leaving but I for one have enjoyed your post. I have had the pleasure of voting for you twice in the primaries and twice in the general election. I wish you well.
The user posts under this
The user posts under this blog are precisely the reason NJ politics is going downhill. How can you expect people to respond when you ask questions in such a vitriolic manner. This is also the reason someone like Sabrin will never be taken seriously. Instead of being professional, he acts like a child. A message to the posters under this blog - maybe try asking a reasonable question instead of stomping your feet like little children when someone expresses a viewpoint.
Irrespective of position on issues...
Irrespective of conflicting positions on issues, she is just another New Jerseyan who got dumped on by Bush.
http://www.infowars.net/pictures/may2007/160507Whitman.jpg
NJ politics already are downhill....
In response to post by nj_politics_2008, I would suggest that your assertion is seriously flawed. I made no ad hominem remarks about Whitman in my earlier post but simply pointed out the indisputable fact that she presided over the decline of the Republican party in NJ. I would not call her crooked; arrogant, incompetent, ineffective perhaps but not crooked. Here's a 'reasonable question' for you and anyone else out there. How can we possibly turn around the declining finances in this state without tackling the number one problem - skyrocketing costs for public service employees. Any politician who makes that their number one goal would get my vote.
I would argue that the
I would argue that the following comments are ad hominem:
When you put words like that how can you possibly be expected to be taken seriously in a public policy discussion.
Liberal?
New Jersey wasn't so liberal in the 1980's when it voted for Ronald Reagan twice by comfortable margins. In fact, New Jersey voted Republican six straight times in presiidental elections during 1968-1988. It used to be a swing state that leaned Republican. The sad fact is that everything changed during Christie's tenure and it is easy to see why. She systematically froze any conservative Republican out of her administration and the party hierarchy and steadily moved the party leftward.
Tom Kean Sr. sought to make the Republican party "the party of inclusion." Christie made it the party of exclusion - no conservatives allowed. The end result was that Republicans went from controlling 2/3's of the legislature to be a minority party which it still is today, and we still have a runaway activist judiciary.
hold up...
My conservative brothers and sisters have to learn to hold their fire and act in a manner becoming of movement we represent. Do I back whitman's social positions? No not at all. Do I think Franks should have beat Schundler in 2001; hell no! Do I think we acheived political progress in the whitman years as republicans, yes we have. Clearly Governor whitman should be shown more respect in this fourm than she has been afforded.
On paper we conservatives should have been running the GOP the moment the State legislarture went democratic in 2002. We have alienated too many of our rank and file by our temper tantrums. We have routinely shown our lack of civility eating our own in a mad rush to show who is the conservative's conservative (see Lonegan 9% that cost Schuldler in 2005 and Talarico's mess in Bergen County). The river that we have cried for ourselves has only made it eaiser for democrats to sail downstream to victory time and again. We have only ourselves to thank for McGreevy, Corzine, Menendez, Lautenberg, Holt and Codey.
We simply need to grow up.
Kean was no better than Whitman
Governor Kean has more in common with Governor Whitman than he did with Governor Reagan. He had forged many compromises with a democratic legislature. He was in no way, shape or form a friend to pro-lifers. As for Whitman, she controlled the GOP legislature (or vice versa), achieved more fiscal conservative goals, and ran against a ever changing electorate than made the political gains of the 1990's unsustainable. Am I saying that Governor whitman was better than Kean? No... What I am saying is that they were similar governors in two different political climates. They did do alot of good things but we need to keep things in perspective.
I've heard this argument a
I've heard this argument a hundred time - "Reagan won New Jersey." It's been 20 years since 1988. Times change. I hate to break it to you. Christie Whitman is not the reason NJ voters support gay rights, gun legislation, abortion rights, etc... We are a different state with "liberal" views on social issues. I use liberal with hesitation because many in the Goldwater conservative wing of the GOP are pro-choice and consider it an issue of indivudal rights.
NJ might still be voting Republican is the Christian Right did not take over the national party. Even though our Republicans are rather left of center at times, the voters think national party labels normally when electing candidates.
Let's At Least Give Her Points For Subjecting Herself....
...to all the (well deserved ;-) criticism here.
She was a terrible governor and a horrible EPA administrator; and she let us all down in the aftermath of 9-11.....but ya gotta give her a wee bit of credit for a classy withdrawel from this arena.
From Frederick Douglass
You folks are vicious
I'm not the earth's biggest Whitman fan, but a few people here are a little over the top. And believe me, Christie Whitman did not "singlehandedly" destroy the state GOP, she had plenty of help.
Keep in mind that Mrs. Whitman has been out of office since early 2001, yet the state party has continued to flounder in her absence. There are still a lot of people in New Jersey's Republican Party who think the way to win is to be a "kinder and gentler" version of Jon Corzine. The pathetic state New Jersey's Republicans are in today is proof that this foolish philosophy has failed, but it is unfair to blame Mrs. Whitman for "singlehandedly" pushing that idea.
When Christie Whitman got up at her inauguration, talking about tax cuts and reduced government spending, I had a lot of hope for her administration. Her poll numbers in early 1994 showed she had broad support across the Republican Party, and was even more popular with pro-Life voters and conservatives than Republicans as a whole.
Unfortunately, these hopes were dashed when the Governor's focus moved from tight fiscal management to a culture of political correctness and virtriolic insensitivity, bordering to the point of outright hatred, for the pro-Life views held by millions of her constituents.
The Governor's early successes and reputation for fiscal conservativsm went out the window as budgets began to zoom higher, state debt skyrocketed and government programs exploded in size. It's tough to build a party when its leaders are cultural liberals and fiscal liberals. That was the sad legacy of the Whitman years. But she could not do it alone. Remember that her budgets were approved by Republican dominated legislators. It is that combined complicity here that led to the GOP losing credibilty with voters. Until the party gets a leader who can restore that credibility, Republicans will continue to lose statewide elections.
Reagan vs Whitman
While they did govern in slightly differnet times, I think it is a valid comparison to make to illustrate my point and refute some of the 'conventional thinking' spouted by others. Reagan was a great leader who was succesful not just because he was in the right place at the right time. If you do a little research you will find he won only a narrow majority of the popular vote in 1980, had to deal with a Democratic House to pass any legislation, and had a very shaky economy in his 1st couple of years. What made Reagan great was a combination of a firm core set of beliefs and communication skills that allowed him to reeducate the public that Washington DC was not the answer to all of our problems as we hear too often from our Democratic candidates. Whitman on the other hand had no clear set of core beliefs (or did a poor job of commuincating them) and squandered a very favorable economic climate and legislature to allow the state to get out of control. Yes, the Republican legislators were complicit in this disaster but that doesn't excuse the total failure of leadership on Whitman's part to lay down firm principles (like not adding excessive debt to facilitate excessive spending). A true leader would have gone directly to the people and told them there is no free lunch and government has to stay within its means - this is a winning message now as well as back then. We just don't have a leader who appears to be capable of delivering this message.
mad_as_hell_in_nj
You Mental MIDGET, I can refute everything, that you think you know, because you don’t know your A _ _ from a HOLE IN THE GROUND or anything else for that matter because you a LIAR and know exactly NOTHING..................
So crawl back into the HOLE that you came from with all you other PIG FRIENDS................
You are truly the typical GARBAGE that represents New Jersey and the rest of it’s STENCH.
GOOD RIDDANCE !!
Your final post couldn't have come soon enough. You were one of the worst governors that this state has ever had. You weren't much better in Washington either. How you ever got a spot on this forum is beyond me. The people want no more of you. Go live your silver- spooned life style away from us all and fade into the sunset forever.
Too bad,
While she spewed her B. S. we could read or not read it. When she was Governor she did so much damage to New Jersey and sunk the NJGOP and we had to take it.
Mayby she wants to be McCain's VP so she can screw up the country in the modle of NJ.
"Hollywood is a place whre thy'll pay you a thousand dollars for a kiss and 50 cents for your soul." - Marilyn Monroe (She never knew how profound she was.)
bye bye
good - bye, madame governor.............dont let the door hit you in the ---.
And thank god for that
After starting the unconstitutional borrowing train down the tracks she jumped off before the de-railment. Thank God the last post has been submitted. Go back to hoity-toity land. Good riddance.
As they "silence is golden"
Republican Conscience
GOOD RIDDANCE TO YOU! YOU LOSER - The NJGOP is a WASTE NOW not because of Governor Whitman just you losers who are apart of it now .............
When Governor Whitman was in office the Republicans were in charge they are in charge of NOTHING now since you MORONS have been around.
So go back with all the other PIGS and the DEMOCROOKS where you all belong.
GOOD RIDDANCE TO YOU! YOU LOSER - The NJGOP is a WASTE NOW not because of Governor Whitman just you losers who apart it now.
When Governor Whitman was in office the Republicans were in charge they are in charge of NOTHING since MORONS like you all have been around. So go back with all the other PIGS and the DEMOCROOKS where you all belong.................
Sigh...
If only the Mad Mental Giant possessed an ounce of civility and a junior high command of punctuation…
Mad NJ
Can the total downfall of NJ Republicans be blamed on Whitman ? I say NO the NJ conservative movement never found its voice or ideal candidate. Its very sad to see a party fall apart because it has no money and no attractive conservative messengers.
I wish I was aware of this blog and her blogging
Who ever else replied in any way to (no and all offense to her)I agree 10,000%, and when she skipped off and absolutly did nothing else anywhere else; oh I can't stand when my dollar is going down the drain just like a wasted flush.
Would you mind
Getting her off,,,,PLEASE
Valediction
I will miss your postings, for one among many. Please do not hesitate to further the cause of moderate Republicans who know the meaning of civility.
Best Wishes, Gov.
I didn't always agree with you but I appreciate your contribution to this site.
I wish you luck in your future endeavors and in your role within your daughter's congressional campaign.
God bless.
"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." - Charlton Heston
Great News!
Now we can start to rebuild the Republican Party in this state. By the way, any chance you can take your daughter with you?
"The only man who never makes a mistake is the man who never does anything."
--Theodore Roosevelt--
Great News!
Now we can start to rebuild the Republican Party in this state. By the way, any chance you can take your daughter with you?
"The only man who never makes a mistake is the man who never does anything."
--Theodore Roosevelt--
Go Away please !!!!!!!!
Please go away and take your family with you.You are irrelavant.
GOOD RIDDANCE !
The good news is you won't be posting here. The bad news is your daughter is running for office. She appears to be running in the typical Whitman mode : We are all rich and smarter than the rest of you peasants and we expect you to swallow every lie we tell you.
Madmax
Did they run out of prunes in your asylum? I read you comment twice and in didn't make any sense either time. Stop posting when you are so full of venom. Take 10 deep breaths, calm down and perhaps a coherent thought might occur. It is possible.
"A Nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one. Alexander Hamilton
Good Riddance
To Bad Rubbish.
Liar
Good riddance is too good a sentiment for that lying piece of trash.
Because of her administration the NJDOP went from useless to dangerous and costly. the mopes and moles she annointed there aid and abet in circumventing the Constitution. The result is lawsuits brought because the NJDOP abandoned its mission at Whitless direction.
Because she lied and declared the air at Ground Zero safe to breath thousands of rescuers and citizens will suffer a lifetime of pulmonary ailments.
Because she squandered the State pension system on pork our State is in financial shambles.
Because she was born with a silver spoon in her mouth she has no clue on what the real world is like.
Because she devastated so many lives with her blue blood bullshit her daughter doesn't deserve a single vote.
Go away and don't come back you rotton excuse for a human being!
Don't let the door hit ya.
Don't let the door hit ya.
P.S. Seriously, how do you sleep at night?
Bye Christie!
You will be missed.
Would you kindly take the Torch with you on the way out?
Thanks and enjoy your retirement from the flames of angry New Jerseyans. We have so much to be angry about, it can get in the way of civil discourse. Perhaps you have noticed?
OE